What makes a "British" car? - Page 5

S60D5-185 · Jun 14th, 2018, 14:58

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Originally Posted by biggbn

Owned both sd1 and p6 in Buick bent eight guises, Anglo American mongrels both, but true brits thru and thru, just to muddy the waters of national identity further...

Yes my dad had a new P6 V8S and in it's day it was lively. He also had a new Triumph 2.5PI Estate and I always thought that it was a stylish car.

volvoid · Jun 14th, 2018, 16:06

Robots, and a few people.

Steve, Mick, Dave, Abdul, Mohammed, Taf and Jock

Marty Dolomite · Jun 14th, 2018, 20:23

What about Vauxhall, according to the latest adverts 'A British brand since 1903' ?

It may had been a British brand in 1903 but was acquired by GM and now owner is a German company who are owned by a French company. some are UK built but most are built as Opels and badged Vauxhall to be sold in the UK. In fact its only called Vauxhall in the UK so they can claim to be British., would sales suffer if they had the Opel badge on I doubt it.

Dippydog · Jun 14th, 2018, 20:39

Many years ago when there were Vauxhall and Opel dealers you could buy the same car under different badges[just as now a lot of people put the Opel Blitz in place of the Vx Griffin]but the Opel was seen as a more upmarket vehicle although it could well have come down the same production line.The Opel was also at least 1 insurance group higher than the Vauxhall as it was an "import".Will the LR Discovery still be "British" as production is moving to Slovakia-or already has done,and JLR are owned by the Indian Tata conglomerate anyway?

Prufrock · Jun 15th, 2018, 14:29

I don't know how far you are going back Dippy, but in the 1970s Vauxhalls and Opels were very different...the Vauxhall lineup

Viva
Chevette
Firenza
Victor & Ventora (FD & FE).

The Opels

Kadett (C)
Commodore (B)
Manta (A)

Think I've got that right ! Never owned by the Germans, GM (American) then and now the PSA Group (French).

Jon.

57RKL · Jun 15th, 2018, 15:12

You missed the obvious one, Cavalier Mk1 and relative Ascona. Great RWD cars. My Dad had the 2 door version and handled so much better than mk 5 Cortina he replaced it with. Cool rally cars too.

scorcher · Jun 15th, 2018, 15:43

Now you lot have gone and done it! The ghost of my Jowett Javelin is very upset..........

4x4 · Jun 15th, 2018, 16:25

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Originally Posted by john.wigley

...What makes a "British" car?...

Rust

ITSv40 · Jun 15th, 2018, 16:53

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Originally Posted by 4x4

Rust

Nah, that accolade has surely got to go to the Italians! Granted, BL et al come a close second, but if it is red and rusty it has to be Italian.

Prufrock · Jun 15th, 2018, 17:56

Two posts above mention rust - when ? We had a number BL cars in the family, all bought new and kept for quite sometime, not one had rust when sold -

Austin A40 (kept for over 20 years)
Rover P5
MGB GT
Triumph 2500 estate (3.0 Triumph Stag engine)
Austin 1800
Wolseley Six
Austin Princess (1.7)
Austin Metro VdP.

Jon.

N.B see the poster above has a V40...they're not exactly free from tinworm at an early age.

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Jun 14th, 2018, 20:23	#43
Marty Dolomite Premier Member Last Online: Apr 24th, 2024 12:48 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southampton	What about Vauxhall, according to the latest adverts 'A British brand since 1903' ? It may had been a British brand in 1903 but was acquired by GM and now owner is a German company who are owned by a French company. some are UK built but most are built as Opels and badged Vauxhall to be sold in the UK. In fact its only called Vauxhall in the UK so they can claim to be British., would sales suffer if they had the Opel badge on I doubt it. Last edited by Marty Dolomite; Jun 14th, 2018 at 20:26.

Jun 15th, 2018, 15:43	#47
scorcher New Member Last Online: Mar 11th, 2021 13:13 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: watlington oxon.	what makes a British car Now you lot have gone and done it! The ghost of my Jowett Javelin is very upset..........

Jun 15th, 2018, 17:56	#50
Prufrock I've Been Banned Last Online: Aug 10th, 2018 09:22 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: The Lincolnshire Wolds & West Sussex Coast	Two posts above mention rust - when ? We had a number BL cars in the family, all bought new and kept for quite sometime, not one had rust when sold - Austin A40 (kept for over 20 years) Rover P5 MGB GT Triumph 2500 estate (3.0 Triumph Stag engine) Austin 1800 Wolseley Six Austin Princess (1.7) Austin Metro VdP. Jon. N.B see the poster above has a V40...they're not exactly free from tinworm at an early age. Last edited by Prufrock; Jun 15th, 2018 at 18:23.

Jun 14th, 2018, 20:39	#44
Dippydog Premier Member Last Online: Apr 25th, 2024 17:55 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: S****horpe	Many years ago when there were Vauxhall and Opel dealers you could buy the same car under different badges[just as now a lot of people put the Opel Blitz in place of the Vx Griffin]but the Opel was seen as a more upmarket vehicle although it could well have come down the same production line.The Opel was also at least 1 insurance group higher than the Vauxhall as it was an "import".Will the LR Discovery still be "British" as production is moving to Slovakia-or already has done,and JLR are owned by the Indian Tata conglomerate anyway?

Jun 15th, 2018, 14:29	#45
Prufrock I've Been Banned Last Online: Aug 10th, 2018 09:22 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: The Lincolnshire Wolds & West Sussex Coast	I don't know how far you are going back Dippy, but in the 1970s Vauxhalls and Opels were very different...the Vauxhall lineup Viva Chevette Firenza Victor & Ventora (FD & FE). The Opels Kadett (C) Commodore (B) Manta (A) Think I've got that right ! Never owned by the Germans, GM (American) then and now the PSA Group (French). Jon.

Jun 15th, 2018, 15:12	#46
57RKL Senior Member Last Online: Mar 31st, 2024 12:39 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hazel Grove	You missed the obvious one, Cavalier Mk1 and relative Ascona. Great RWD cars. My Dad had the 2 door version and handled so much better than mk 5 Cortina he replaced it with. Cool rally cars too.

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