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Apr 14th, 2013, 06:57 | #11 |
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Seems that I HAVE to have the Nav version if I want SE Lux as there isn't a non-Nav version. It is claimed that 90% of SE Lux and R-Design Lux have the Nav specified.
Can't understand why folks will pay £1200 for a sat Nav when you can get a perfectly good Garmin for £2-300 but there you go.
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Apr 14th, 2013, 08:16 | #12 |
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PIN codes.
Have you asked the dealer if they will supply you with whatever pincodes you may need to be free of all the restrictions that the lack of them will impose on your full enjoyment of this vehicle?
It is a sleeper and will be very restrictive of Volvo ownership in the wider sense if not adressed. Regards, Don.
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Apr 14th, 2013, 08:21 | #13 | |
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Please stop scaremongering and trying to create an issue where an issue does not exist.
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Apr 14th, 2013, 08:34 | #14 |
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Volvo Pincode ransome.
You are not up to speed on this and taking a very miopic view.
Presently this system prevents such traders as myself from flashing in other software unless we remove the ECU and address it directly. In this limited respect it favours Polestar and is contrary to EU legislation. Frankly it is not a great problem for me and my fellow competitors in the UK aftermarket presently as most of our customers modify older cars. The wider aspects of this system bloody well should be of interest to you and all other owners of later model Volvos, it will limit your use and enjoyment of these cars in the widest sense, forcing owners to deal only with companies linked in to Volvo's systems: it will also prevent owners from changing many other aspects of the vehicles which must be profoundly wrong. Regards, Don.
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Apr 14th, 2013, 09:04 | #15 | |
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It is a vanishingly small percentage of people that have any need, or desire, to enter into the realms of the computer circuitry within a car. It is also the case that these same computers are safety critical and manufacturers are completely correct in preventing people from tampering with such systems. I repeat it is your problem, not mine or the great majority of people who simply enjoy their cars for what they are - highly sophisticated, computerised, engineering marvels that they are happy to have serviced and maintained by people who have legitimate access to the software systems within the vehicle. I also repeat stop trying to make an issue out of nothing.u
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Apr 14th, 2013, 10:14 | #16 | |
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No idea what you lot are going on about. When I built my Westfield the ECU was PIN protected to stop idiots messing about with it and causing possible damage. It was to protect Westfield's warranty. After 12 months I got the PIN.
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Apr 14th, 2013, 10:26 | #17 |
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Pincodes.
There is an unarguable case for a manufacturer protecting its exposure to fraudulent warranty claims, there is no issue there.
But this wider isssue of protecting various aspects of the electronic functions of a modern vehicle, in this case with different pincodes for different areas in perpetuity, is flaunting the law and is frankly not needed and can only be there to lock out not only a competant owner but competion in the aftermarket. To suggest that aftermarket companies are either incompetant or dishonest does not hold water......who is being protected from who in these matters? Regards, Don.
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At no point in any of my commentary do I make any reference to competency or honesty of anyone or any company, I merely state that this is your issue not mine, nor the overwhelming majority of people who do not see any need to tamper with excellent, reliable products.
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Apr 14th, 2013, 11:28 | #19 | |
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Btw, how do you know that you can not? The new UK pricelists are not yet loaded online. Dealer? They probably don't know anyway..... If it's not possible, spec laminated windows and tint the windows through a different company (film on the inside). If done properly, it will look great.
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