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Old Nov 23rd, 2018, 10:08   #11
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The first issue I fix simply by steering slightly when the car stops. If you do that, then auto power off is canceled for that moment. It will work again next time.

Obviously, there's more wear and tear on the starting mechanism. But normally they aren't dimensioned the same on cars with automatic start/stop, to compensate for that. If that helps, I don't know.
On the previous car I bought new, I had to replace the starter motor after about 350000 km. That was old enough not to have any automatic start/stop.
The XC70 with auto stop we have now hasn't reached 120000 km yet, so it will take a while before I can compare.
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Old Nov 26th, 2018, 13:30   #12
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Do you not think the engineers would recognise that the starter etc. would get more & engineer the solution accordingly?

Also don't forget that a quick wiggle of the steering wheel will also trigger the engine to restart so you don't need to release the brake.
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Do you not think the engineers would recognise that the starter etc. would get more & engineer the solution accordingly?
No.

In fact on the C30 the components are are the same between the start stop and the non start stop a few months earlier. (Apart from aux battery)
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I've recently come across an advertisement for an S80 D2, but the first thing I thought is that it would be majorly underpowered taking into account the size of the vehicle. I see plenty of D2's on the roads, but usually in smaller models. From what I'm reading here, they definitely seem cheaper to run in comparison to a D5 & people seem to be happy with them. I know they probably won't be anywhere near as powerful as a D5, but that's to be expected I suppose. Do these D2's actually do the mpg they claim to? The S80 advertisement I looked at said it done 58.9mpg around town! My D5 (2007, P3 shape) books at 28mpg around town if I recall correctly... That's a massive difference.

So, presumably the D2 8v (115bhp in the S80) would be the model to go for, not the 'Drive' 16v ones with less bhp? I've also read that there's some kind of fluid that needs to be serviced, which has something to do with the DPF on the lower output versions?
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If this is the PSA origin 4 pot diesel engine, PSA used an eolys fluid injection system to initiate carbon particle burn in the DPF when regenerating. So long as the pump and specific electrics keep working, all you have to do is replace the fluid in the reservoir when the system tells you its due. I know on Peugeots with this engine and filter system the countdown is not based on fluid used but on the number of times the fuel filler cap is opened and closed. The only other disadvantage is that the eolys fluid is not cheap, costing from £30 to £40+ per litre. The advantage to the system is that you don't get diesel fuel dilution of the engine lubricating oil when a regeneration is aborted.
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I've recently come across an advertisement for an S80 D2, but the first thing I thought is that it would be majorly underpowered taking into account the size of the vehicle. I see plenty of D2's on the roads, but usually in smaller models. From what I'm reading here, they definitely seem cheaper to run in comparison to a D5 & people seem to be happy with them. I know they probably won't be anywhere near as powerful as a D5, but that's to be expected I suppose. Do these D2's actually do the mpg they claim to? The S80 advertisement I looked at said it done 58.9mpg around town! My D5 (2007, P3 shape) books at 28mpg around town if I recall correctly... That's a massive difference.

So, presumably the D2 8v (115bhp in the S80) would be the model to go for, not the 'Drive' 16v ones with less bhp? I've also read that there's some kind of fluid that needs to be serviced, which has something to do with the DPF on the lower output versions?
My D2 is currently doing 53mpg and that is half motorway half A-roads in the rush hour. On a long run at 56MPH it does nearly 70mpg if you are careful. As quick as my last 2.4 petrol V70 but considerably cheaper to run for fuel, insurance and the tax! £320 down to £30. Woop.
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My D2 is currently doing 53mpg and that is half motorway half A-roads in the rush hour. On a long run at 56MPH it does nearly 70mpg if you are careful. As quick as my last 2.4 petrol V70 but considerably cheaper to run for fuel, insurance and the tax! £320 down to £30. Woop.
That sounds great, certainly cheaper to run than the D5. Do the D2’s have swirl flaps? I also come across some D4 versions that appear to be very economical too, albeit more powerful than the D2.

Are there any known issues with the D2 engine as such?
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That sounds great, certainly cheaper to run than the D5. Do the D2’s have swirl flaps? I also come across some D4 versions that appear to be very economical too, albeit more powerful than the D2.

Are there any known issues with the D2 engine as such?
No swirl flaps on the D2.
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I made 210.000km with a D2 before selling. No known general Problems, no EOLYS fluid needed. Annual or 15.000km oil changes are important. I got 5.5l diesel consumption with 140km/h on the Autobahn.


The D2 is powerfull enough for cruising alone, with 4 persons+baggage it is ok but you don't want to overtake anything.
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I've had another browse earlier this evening at a few different adverts for Diesel V70's & S80's. It all gets a bit confusing with the badges if I may say so & I'm not sure if the Autotrader technical stats are actually correct.

What does D2, D3 & D4 mean? Are these effectively the same engines with different power outputs & how many cylinders do they have?

My understanding is the D2 is four cylinder, the D3 can come in four or five cylinder variants depending on the year & the D4 is a five cylinder engine with two turbos?
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