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Old Feb 11th, 2019, 22:47   #1
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1993 2.0 wentworth auto estate.

Car has 140,000 miles on it, ive checked the mot history out and it has passed every mot with only advisories being new number plate and front caliper binding (2018) and brakes hoses & headlights ( 2015 ) i assume headlights been sorted as not mentioned since.
There is one problem and the seller says it has a small hole in the turbo?.and shes been driving it like that for a year!! Now my questions are what could it be? Mot is only untill march which i dont think will be a problem. Should i consider buying? Its sub 500 but its a fair few miles away from me and id need to pay for collection.

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Ive got to be honest, Im not really sure. The mechanic said its only small, and could easily be fixed. I have been driving it like that for a year. I can try and find out more information for you if you like. The MOT doesnt run out until March.

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The first 940 i was considering has overfuelling problem and decided to give it a miss.
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I wouldnt be inclined to buy it without seeing it. There are some complete wrecks out there. If it is as presented and a failed turbocharger is really the only problem then at under 500 it could still be a good buy. The mileage is quite low and adding the cost of an exchange turbo would still make it a reasonable buy. However, personally Id want to know why the turbo had failed. I am still driving a 2.0 Wentworth with 263k on the clock and the original, untouched turbo. Premature failure would indicate the possibility of other faults such as a lack of regular oil changes or a cooling system problem. These might take it from bargain to nightmare money pit in short order.
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First of all, with no disrespect to the seller, she obviously doesn't have a clue what the problem is. I doubt it is in fact on the turbo itself but it could be. Personally i'd avoid any car with turbo problems - once bitten, twice shy on that!

However, can i ask why you seem to be concentrating on 2.0 models? The 2.3 is much better suited to the car and gives better economy, insurance isn't wildly different (if at all) and i'd hazard a guess the 960 3.0 probably isn't much different on insurance either. Unless you do a lot of town driving, the 3.0 won't be that different on fuel either, probably better on a run than the 2.0.
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Sound advice from both 'Laird Scooby' and 'Forrest', 'Nine40'. I would particularly endorse 'Laird Scooby's ' comments regarding the 2.3 motor, and if the vendor would also consider including year's MOT in the price, that should give you a greater degree of confidence in the car.

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Begging pardon but....simples.

Pig in a poke from a stranger.

Could be a multitudinous nest of vipers.

I wouldn't consider it with a barge pole.

And many such metaphors mixed not shaken or stirred.
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I'd be a bit more open-minded than some of the posters above... though I'd personally be after a 2.3.

Are you sure the hole is in the turbo, or could it be in the turbo pipework or intercooler? Easy and cheap to fix if it is in the pipework.
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I'd be a bit more open-minded than some of the posters above... though I'd personally be after a 2.3.

Are you sure the hole is in the turbo, or could it be in the turbo pipework or intercooler? Easy and cheap to fix if it is in the pipework.
Fair points Jim but i've known sellers who are deliberately vague about "faults" and some who even claim they've had the fault fixed and it has come back with a major defect that then needs a lot of work and/or money to put right. However they've been told by their "mechanic" that it's within limits so is perfectly acceptable.

The hole could be in the exhaust manifold where it meets the turbo - not easy to source a replacement or as you suggest, in the piepwork and/or intercooler.

Too many variables with the potential for needing a replacement turbo as well.
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Apparantly there is a hole in the exhaust where the turbo meets the block and they have put tape on it but it leaks exhaust gas.. is that an easy repair? I have a photo of the hole but i cant upload it? The hole is not the exhaust but a large rubber hose attached to turbo..

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First of all, with no disrespect to the seller, she obviously doesn't have a clue what the problem is. I doubt it is in fact on the turbo itself but it could be. Personally i'd avoid any car with turbo problems - once bitten, twice shy on that!

However, can i ask why you seem to be concentrating on 2.0 models? The 2.3 is much better suited to the car and gives better economy, insurance isn't wildly different (if at all) and i'd hazard a guess the 960 3.0 probably isn't much different on insurance either. Unless you do a lot of town driving, the 3.0 won't be that different on fuel either, probably better on a run than the 2.0.
I really only do town driving with most being 30 mile round trip, it appears that the hole is a rubber hose pipe, i have photo from seller,
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Apparantly there is a hole in the exhaust where the turbo meets the block and they have put tape on it but it leaks exhaust gas.. is that an easy repair? I have a photo of the hole but i cant upload it? The hole is not the exhaust but a large rubber hose attached to turbo..
Taking that literally and at face value, that's impossible!

Reading between the lines, it sounds horribly like the exhaust manifold is cracked.

However i've just seen the bit about the rubber hose, it won't be exhaust gases getting out from a rubber hose though. If there is something smellt getting out, it suggests it's breathing heavily in which case the engine may need some intensive (and expensive!) repair.

Is it on ebay by any chance? If so a link to it would be helpful, we might be able to read between more lines and perhaps find out what's really wrong with it! At the moment it sounds like a reasonable bet but you'll have to spend some fairly quickly!
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