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Powershift vs Geartronic - how are they aging?

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Old May 18th, 2018, 15:01   #11
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Glad that you got your card sorted, if you dont mind me asking, what were the symptoms of these issue? Did you know about them on your test drive?
the transmission was slipping but did not notice this on a test drive and ws from a private seller. only happened when you put your foot down. i dont believe the transmission was ever serviced. needs to be serviced every 30k miles which i will be doing from now on.
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Old Nov 26th, 2018, 23:04   #12
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Hi all

I've found a few threads on this topic but they're a little out of date, mostly to do with new or nearly new purchases

I'm wondering if anyone has any experience on how these transmissions are holding up now that the cars are aging? There are a lot of V50s for sale in great condition but with high mileage, which doesn't bother me in principal, but these expensive transmissions can be a worry,

I'm looking at buying a used V50, i'm only interested in Auto cars but i've noticed that theres many cars for sale with either a Powershift or Geartronic transmission.

From what I understand, Geartronic is more a traditional auto whereas Powershift is a DSG equivalent? My general thoughts are that a traditional auto should last longer and be less expensive to fix (at least from my experience looking at VAG cars), but I don't know if this carries over to Volvo?

I had a DSG Skoda a few years back and liked the way it drove, but i've also had traditional Auto cars in the past and don't mind a more slushy gearchange, so really i'm looking to choose based on reliability not driving performance,

Any advice greatly appreciated

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My Powershift clutch is being replaced at the moment, when it was purchased there was a slight delay getting into reverse gear...had a box oil change just after I bought it.....then in a queue on the M6 a few weeks back it went bonkers and bang a couple of times.....good job I have a purchased warranty on it but it is still going to cost 2k....I love the car and it drives brilliantly...but even small niggles on a drive will not show up as a problem...
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Old Nov 27th, 2018, 04:43   #13
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I’ve had both. And never had problem with neither of them. The GT on a D5 XC70 and XC90 AWD, and now a PS on a V50.
I’d go for a PS simply cos it is newer. I believe it’ll last. Mine was not serviced regularly prior purchase, but now it is by me. Good working order and only can recommend.
Especially on a V50 I think a 2.0D is more than enough. Bear in mind I NEVER put my foot down. I have a 6yo. I want to get from A to B. The MPG downtown is bad for me as my work is about 7min drive from home. But not really using the car much for commuting. On a freeway it’s AMAZING! If you’d put 20K in it a year, probably that’s a factor, don’t know.

All in all PS is amazing and turned out to be reliable in my case. I know ford has the same setup as Volvo but the problems only seem to be present on their car not on Volvos.
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sorry to make a note but the fords are not the same as the volvo powershifts
the latter is a wet/oil clutch and the other is dry clutch
the dry clutch fords are the problem areas.
change the oil for the powershift on a volvo every 36k and you will be good to go and get the adaptive reset
all in all buy the oil for this box via opieoils and replace the volvo gearbox filter
also the same on both volvo/ford - same parts
and it should be no more than 95 quid through a volvo specialist to change and reset the adaptives.
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I've owned quite a few auto transmision cars & wouldn't put the Geartronic up there with the best. I had no problems with mine but just found it's operating characteristics a bit irritating. Such as not the smoothest shifting, too willing to shift down at motorway speeds when calling for mild acceleration when you just want the torque of the engine in top gear to accelerate you (I got round that by selecting top manually, it then held in that gear on the motorway) & it's habit of just dumping the box into top when on the overrun, meaning there's no engine braking -especially downhill in town- meaning you have to manually select lower gears to get engine braking. Not the best auto gearbox IMO. Make sure you get the fluid changed at least every 70,000 miles, Volvo say it's sealed for life but that's BS. I changed mine at 80,000 miles & it made a mild improvement to the shift quality.
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I've owned quite a few auto transmision cars & wouldn't put the Geartronic up there with the best. I had no problems with mine but just found it's operating characteristics a bit irritating. Such as not the smoothest shifting, too willing to shift down at motorway speeds when calling for mild acceleration when you just want the torque of the engine in top gear to accelerate you (I got round that by selecting top manually, it then held in that gear on the motorway) & it's habit of just dumping the box into top when on the overrun, meaning there's no engine braking -especially downhill in town- meaning you have to manually select lower gears to get engine braking. Not the best auto gearbox IMO. Make sure you get the fluid changed at least every 70,000 miles, Volvo say it's sealed for life but that's BS. I changed mine at 80,000 miles & it made a mild improvement to the shift quality.
The 5 speed AW "geartronic" box is a twenty year old design, and while not as slushy as the old 4 speeders it's a million miles off the pace of current automatics.

The 6 speed is better but these were always econo-car automatics used in Vauxhalls and the like, and were never on a level with the likes of the contemporary ZF HP5 and HP6 transmissions you get in RWD European cars.
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The 5 speed AW "geartronic" box is a twenty year old design, and while not as slushy as the old 4 speeders it's a million miles off the pace of current automatics.

The 6 speed is better but these were always econo-car automatics used in Vauxhalls and the like, and were never on a level with the likes of the contemporary ZF HP5 and HP6 transmissions you get in RWD European cars.
You hit the nail on the head there. I have a Merc with the 7G auto gearbox now & the difference is like night & day.
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sorry to make a note but the fords are not the same as the volvo powershifts
the latter is a wet/oil clutch and the other is dry clutch
the dry clutch fords are the problem areas.
change the oil for the powershift on a volvo every 36k and you will be good to go and get the adaptive reset
all in all buy the oil for this box via opieoils and replace the volvo gearbox filter
also the same on both volvo/ford - same parts
and it should be no more than 95 quid through a volvo specialist to change and reset the adaptives.
So the Powershift on a Volvo has a filter that can be changed ? Is that inside the pan or external to the 'box ?
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So the Powershift on a Volvo has a filter that can be changed ? Is that inside the pan or external to the 'box ?
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If it has the Powershift transmission, then yes. Its an external filter, next to where you drain the fluid from the transmission.

The filter isn't very big. Its quite long and narrow in a black casing. Its not as big as a fuel filter or oil filter for example.

I believe the Powershift transmission's were used in the 4 cylinder 2.0 litre variants. Geartronic was used in the 2.4 5 cylinder engines.

Powershift has a filter you can change and is accessible. Geartronic on the other hand has no visible filter... I assume its inside the transmission itself, so can't be changed without dismantling.
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