Seriously?

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Othen

The Holt car didn't quite make £1,500 - it got to £1,427.60. That is about where we saw it - close to the top of the 'rough cars'. It does somewhat put into perspective the motor car from France we discussed yesterday (a non-runner with no title nor MoT that would cost a grand to recover to the UK).

So far the sellers boat hasn't had much interest - but the seller has increased the start price to £300 - which is odd marketing :-)

Alan

... it would appear that the boat eventually sold for £300 (after 4 or 5 listings). I wonder though, there was a single bid from someone with no eBay history (0 score) - so perhaps that was the seller before donating it to Guy Fawkes night?

:-)

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by Othen

... it would appear that the boat eventually sold for £300 (after 4 or 5 listings). I wonder though, there was a single bid from someone with no eBay history (0 score) - so perhaps that was the seller before donating it to Guy Fawkes night?

:-)

Onl £299.99 overpriced then! Maybe someone else bought it to create an "art installation" and could justify a very expensive pile of firewood arranged as something that was previously a boat.

It might still reappear come the spring...............

[loki_the_glt]

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

Onl £299.99 overpriced then! Maybe someone else bought it to create an "art installation" and could justify a very expensive pile of firewood arranged as something that was previously a boat.

It might still reappear come the spring...............

Given the prices charged by established "artists" for piles of elephant dung, inter alia, less than £300 for an "art installation" seems like a bargain. And it might appreciate if the "(con-)artist" death were to be announced and fame to beckon...

As the late Herr Goering said "when someone mentions culture I reach for my revolver".

[Moomoo]

The Holt motors back ! Same seller!

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Othen

The Holt car didn't quite make £1,500 - it got to £1,427.60. That is about where we saw it - close to the top of the 'rough cars'. It does somewhat put into perspective the motor car from France we discussed yesterday (a non-runner with no title nor MoT that would cost a grand to recover to the UK).

So far the sellers boat hasn't had much interest - but the seller has increased the start price to £300 - which is odd marketing :-)

Alan

Originally Posted by Moomoo

The Holt motors back ! Same seller!

... this one:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324890858...0AAOSwmCthlZxY ?

So, the motor car only made £1,427 last time round (assuming that was not shill bidding), nothing has happened to it since but the starting price is now £1,800. It still looks as rough as a badger's arse.

Sometimes I struggle to understand.

Alan

[Othen]

Now this is a really rough car, and the seller can't spell:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133938487...0AAOSwg-5hlmDO

... I think this one will struggle to make a grand.

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by Othen

... this one:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324890858...0AAOSwmCthlZxY ?

So, the motor car only made £1,427 last time round (assuming that was not shill bidding), nothing has happened to it since but the starting price is now £1,800. It still looks as rough as a badger's arse.

Sometimes I struggle to understand.

Alan

The badgers arse has taken umbrage at that Alan!

It might have a long MoT but it seriously needs some TLC to get it looking halfway passable!

Mine is in an almost permanent state of being dirty inside because of the sand, mud and grit from where i take Sasha walkies and the outside isn't usually all that clean either but it still looks better than that!

[Moomoo]

Originally Posted by Othen

Now this is a really rough car, and the seller can't spell:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133938487...0AAOSwg-5hlmDO

... I think this one will struggle to make a grand.

I reckon the starting price is optimistic!

[Othen]

This was the previous ad for the Holt car - I'm intrigued to see whether the seller's tactic of increasing the starting price after it failed to sell the first time works.

I wonder why it didn't sell the first time? The most likely explanation is shill bidding, but it is also possible that a genuine bidder took one look at it in the flesh and did an about turn:-)

Originally Posted by Othen

I saw this old bus for sale by auction - it will be a good test of the price guide:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324822450...53.m1438.l2649

It is a 1990 estate, with a claimed 86,000 miles. I say claimed because there are only two MoTs recorded:

25 June 2021
PASS
Mileage
83,602 miles
24 June 2022
Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
Nearside mirror glass missing

23 June 2021
FAIL
Mileage
83,601 miles
Repair immediately (major defects):
Rear Registration plate inscription illegible (0.1 (b))
Offside Side repeater not working (4.4.1 (a) (ii))
Offside Rear Upper Suspension arm pin or bush excessively worn (5.3.4 (a)
Repair as soon as possible (minor defects):
Registration plate lamp throwing direct white light to the rear (4.7.1 (a))
Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
Nearside mirror glass missing

... so it rather looks like it has been off the road for a very long time and recommissioned in 2021, which may account for the low mileage, or it may hide something else. The seller says it comes with the service history - if it does that may tell the story (maybe a service book covering up to about 2010, then perhaps it was parked up (where though?) as it would have had almost no value at that point).

My guess is that it will make £1,500 to 2 grand - so nearer the top of the middling cars than the bottom. It may well be a genuine motor car.

:-)

PS. Date of last V5C (logbook) issued 19 May 2021 - that rather suggests the car has been laid up until this year.

PS. I wonder whether the seller read the price guide in this column and has decided the motor car is worth £1,500 to 2 grand?
PPS. The above was from 10 October - that long MoT is now only just over 6 months :-).

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Othen

Now this is a really rough car, and the seller can't spell:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133938487...0AAOSwg-5hlmDO

... I think this one will struggle to make a grand.

I was thinking about this one in an idle moment before Bob's first walk. What is it worth?

The seller probably bought it as scrap for £100 (or even free as a clearance). It hasn't been used for 12 years, at that time the motor car would have been about 20 years old and at its nadir (value wise) - perhaps worth a few hundred pounds in running condition. I'm guessing it got that bump at the nearside rear that made it a write off in about 2009, it sat in someone's garden or field for the next decade or so.

The motor car had issues with the brakes at the last MoT which will not have fixed themselves. It doesn't run and wouldn't pass a MoT test, so it would have to be trailered away (maybe cost a few hundred pounds). If it isn't rusty underneath it will still need perhaps £1,500 worth of bodywork, tyres, brakes and recommissioning parts and time to get it through the MoT and make it as good as the Holt car, which made £1400 at its last auction. The seller doesn't mention a V5, so I'm guessing that would have to be applied for as well.

I'm struggling to see a market for this one, except the banger racing chap with a crated V6 motor or for spares. Maybe £600?

Time to do something more productive than pontificate about old wrecks - Bob walking :-)

Alan