Seriously?

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by Othen

I have the answer in full (I asked the seller - a very helpful chap):

The motor car had a B21a motor originally, the seller put in a B200 motor with the carburettor and distributor from the B21a - plus an electric fuel pump.

The motor car came from Northern Sweden (imported by the seller).

It sounds pretty genuine, but its demerits are: not at all original, LHD, speedometer in km (200,000 km), 2 door. When I compare the 242 to the RB (more original, RHD, UK car, 110,000 miles, 4 door) in order to put its value in perspective it isn't so attractive a package. My heart says it might make £5,000, but my head says £3,000.

I still like the motor car though, and at £3,000 it would be nice for someone.

Alan

My guesses weren't too far out then on the engine etc. At 200,000km, that's ~120k miles so not wildly different to the RB although it's ~5 years older. The 242 wasn't offered in UK spec (the 142 was but are still rare so is suspect Volvo didn't offer UK 242s) so LHD is probably the only option if someone wants a 242. There was a 262C with a Bertone "roof-chop" which resulted in "gun-turret" styling of the roof so if someone wanted a RHD 200 series, the 262 would be an option.

Someone will love it, maybe not £5k love it or even £3k love it but we'll have to see on the bidding.

[Laird Scooby]

Throwing a curved ball into the mix :

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334165887412

Early 164 auto in very nice condition - no "Injection" or "GLE" badges suggest it's the twin carb model. Not cheap but a better "spend" of the money than the £2250 of the Turbmobile!

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

My guesses weren't too far out then on the engine etc. At 200,000km, that's ~120k miles so not wildly different to the RB although it's ~5 years older. The 242 wasn't offered in UK spec (the 142 was but are still rare so is suspect Volvo didn't offer UK 242s) so LHD is probably the only option if someone wants a 242. There was a 262C with a Bertone "roof-chop" which resulted in "gun-turret" styling of the roof so if someone wanted a RHD 200 series, the 262 would be an option.

Someone will love it, maybe not £5k love it or even £3k love it but we'll have to see on the bidding.

The problem with selling a motor car like that 242 will be the market is tiny - probably a few tens of people in the country that might be interested. If a couple of keen bidders just happened to see it then I like to think it might make £5000, but on reflection that might be wishful thinking; £3,000 is much more realistic.

:-)

[Moomoo]

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

Throwing a curved ball into the mix :

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334165887412

Early 164 auto in very nice condition - no "Injection" or "GLE" badges suggest it's the twin carb model. Not cheap but a better "spend" of the money than the £2250 of the Turbmobile!

Oooooh! Like it! Very sweet!😋

AND-ROOOO'S!

[Stephen Edwin]

Loki, I see it as a 262. So perhaps sought after. It might be one of the 200 series cars that deserve a really good price. I think some values pontificated in this thread are silly high. The 200 series is not THAT special. The little I know re the original engine was not always the best, but the seller has that engine. Someone might be well pleased to get that engine sorted.

It would deserve a thorough inspection. Independent and objective. Particularly because like so many seriously old cars, it has no recent MOT history. and anyone considering price should see the "rarity" as a plus factor, see the historic status as something government might well at least modify in future depending on vehicle tax issues which are likely to be reviewed with increasing numbers of electric &c vehicles. And depending if eg insurance data raises concerns about MOT exemption. I am well aware a member threw their toys out of the pram re this aspect. If they disagree with my careful observations, I defend their right to explain their opinion.

The car is somewhere between unusual and rare?

Stephen

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[Stephen Edwin]

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

Throwing a curved ball into the mix :

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334165887412

Early 164 auto in very nice condition - no "Injection" or "GLE" badges suggest it's the twin carb model. Not cheap but a better "spend" of the money than the £2250 of the Turbmobile!

A 164 auto would put my pension fund in danger of being depleted a bit ... if I actually drove enough to bovver ...

The 262 will appeal to other people.

Ultimately it is what the buyer wants to buy.

Stephen

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[Othen]

Originally Posted by Othen

... this one:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324890858...0AAOSwmCthlZxY ?

So, the motor car only made £1,427 last time round (assuming that was not shill bidding), nothing has happened to it since but the starting price is now £1,800. It still looks as rough as a badger's arse.

Sometimes I struggle to understand.

Alan

The Holt car got just one bid at the opening price (£1,800) - or did it I wonder? :-)

Alan

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Othen

Now this is a really rough car, and the seller can't spell:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133938487...0AAOSwg-5hlmDO

... I think this one will struggle to make a grand.

... and this rough old motor car made £799 at auction (although someone bidding £x99 is always a bit suspicious).

:-)

[Othen]

This one really is a Seriously?!!!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265424936...UAAOSwkoVhokW1

330,000 miles, full of rust and no MoT and an abysmal MoT history... but the seller is still looking for 2 grand for this £600 motor car!

Some people :-)

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Othen

Right on cue I saw this motor car advertised that illustrates your point perfectly Dave:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/403174450....c101198.m1985

So, in the seller's own words: 'Volvo 240 GLT estate 1984, Silver. Petrol, Automatic, Full leather interior. 102,005 miles on the clock. In relative good condition been parked up in a garage over 15 years.

The engine lights came on , but couldn’t start it as no battery, was in working condition when parked up 15 years ago. It has a slight dent on the drivers side, otherwise in relative good condition, just need a good cleaning etc.

The car is parked in a garage at a farm in Bromsgrove the buyer will need to arrange his own pick up'

... and all for only £5,000!

Anyone that paid £5,000 for a 37 year old motor car that had been parked up on a farm for 15 years, had not been re-commissioned, with no MoT or history and as a non runner must have been overdosing on the wacky baccy!

Some good news though, if this one sells for £5,000 then the RB will be worth £10,000!

:-)

PS. It just needs a good clean... a weekend's work I should think.

PPS. Back in 2006 it failed a MoT with these faults:

25 July 2006
FAIL
Mileage
99,775 miles
Reason(s) for failure
Nearside Headlamp aim too low when the centre of the headlamp is below 850mm from the ground (1.6.B2)
Offside Headlamp aim too low when the centre of the headlamp is below 850mm from the ground (1.6.B2)
Nearside Registration plate lamp not working (1.1.5c)
Nearside Front Seat belt anchorage prescribed area is excessively corroded (5.2.6)
Rear Exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases (7.1.2)

... it managed to pass when re-tested the same day, so the rusty floor has probably fixed itself in the past 15 years :-).

... that was from 21 September.

Originally Posted by Othen

... so here it is again at £3,000:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/403246489...2Cchnl%3Dmkcid

... it is advertised until 13 November. If the seller reduces the asking price by another £2,000 when it is next advertised it may well find a buyer :-).

Originally Posted by Othen

I wonder where people have got the idea from that 'barn finds' are so valuable. I try to imagine a scenario where a chap comes across something that is only about 30 years old, hasn't been run for a decade, has no title and no provenance, and his/her first thought is 'someone will be stupid enough to pay me £5,000 for this'... we see it a lot.

... so this one has just re-appeared again (the last time was at the end of October):

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265424936...UAAOSwkoVhokW1

... it started off at £5,000 (guffaw, guffaw), then worked its way down to £3,000 (chortle, chortle) and now appears at £2,000 or offers.

The seller still hasn't done anything to it, the motor car is still sitting in a shed on a farm, doesn't run, no V5, no MoT... and still worth £600 of anybody's money :-)

Alan