Seriously?

[Othen]

Originally Posted by jasons

Looks bit scruffy to me, looks like it needs a full paint job at least and a tidy up, then one turns their attention to the mechanical side which could swallow a chunk of cash also.
In fact the more I look at it the more I think its quite a scruffy thing that would swallow a lot of money to make mint.

For me, I'd say if this is typical evidence of what is out there then I wasn't far off with 15k euro for a minter, this certainly isn't that and wants to trade at 9k euro.


On another note:
It may not be original, I know the market is going crazy for original cars even poverty spec originals with dog slow engines.
Gone are the days of upgraded engines, the market will buy this sort of stuff then turn it back to how it left the factory, but...
If its on the money, for example for me with a spare 230FT and auto gearbox laying around doing nothing, I'd happily drop it in a GT for a bit of extra fun keeping the original motor as spare in case I needed to move it on to an anorak, a 200hp GT running on E85 at 70 cents per litre for make a great fun car for touring Europe, I would do that in heartbeat.

I think we will have to agree to disagree about the Dutch motor car - I don't think it is scruffy at all and there is no evidence that it needs mechanical work. It is a low mileage motor car that Dave reminds us is a Jubilee edition. Now, whether it is worth nearly £9,000 is another matter, even as a special edition I think that is high - but being old enough to qualify as an historic vehicle (in the UK) does (as we have discovered) tend to add around 75% to the price - I rather suspect that is why the Dutch dealer is marketing the motor car here.

On your other note: the whole point of older cars is nostalgia - which means originality - no one will feel nostalgic about something that didn't exist back in the day. We have seen a number of warmed up 244s on this thread which have sold for considerably less than original motor cars would have. If people want warmed up cars then getting some undercar lighting and a cocoa tin tailpipe for their 12 year old Ford Focus ST is a better way to go.

Alan

PS. Here is an example of a warmed up 244 we saw a while ago that made no more than a standard one would have - even though the seller had spent a fortune on it:

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showp...&postcount=929

[chris s]

Hello chaps,

The NL car is a 242GT!
Pretty rare! I've only seen one over here, that was at Cumbers Garage, I think back in the '90s.
I believe the Australians are quite into them, they'd have the steering wheel in the right place too.
(In fact 30 secs on Google found one over there for $19000).

Cheers,
Chris

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by chris s

Hello chaps,

The NL car is a 242GT!
Pretty rare! I've only seen one over here, that was at Cumbers Garage, I think back in the '90s.
I believe the Australians are quite into them, they'd have the steering wheel in the right place too.
(In fact 30 secs on Google found one over there for $19000).

Cheers,
Chris

I noticed it was the 242GT Chris, hence the K-Jetronic engine (B21 or 23E) with what appears to be an overdrive gearknob.
However it is also in the livery of the Jubilee models with the silver paint, Exacton(?) alloys and brown/orange stripes.
Whichever way you look at it, a rare beastie!

[kiloran]

Also, a 242GT which somehow miraculously survived 1980s Beirut if the seller is to be believed!

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Othen

... the bidding is going up much more slowly this time, perhaps the world is becoming bored with 'one of the best, if not the best examples of a classic Volvo 240' every week... or perhaps the seller is just making the shill bidding less obvious?

The Bolton chap’s 240 only made £4,800 this time - not reaching its reserve - quelle surprise. I don’t suppose it matters.

Alan

[Othen]

Originally Posted by kiloran

Also, a 242GT which somehow miraculously survived 1980s Beirut if the seller is to be believed!

If that is correct than it is remarkable that there aren't any bullet holes or petrol bomb scorches. I had cause to go to the Lebanon several times between 1987 and 1990, it was pretty rough old place in those days!

:-)

[Othen]

This old bus is interesting, the seller describes it as having the 'Infamous Redblock engine'... I rather suspect that was not exactly what he/she meant :-)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133946122...53.m1438.l2649

... anyway, it doesn't seem to have affected the bidding, it is up to £3,220 already with a day of the auction to go. This one is a bit rough around the edges (220,000 miles, 10 owners, bit of rust, lots of cosmetic issues) so I'd have put it at no more than £3,000 - but monitoring the market is what this thread is all about so perhaps prices are strengthening a bit?

Alan

PS. This auction has an interesting pattern of bids: 52 bids from 5 different bidders and it has gone up in very small increments. It looks like just two bidders are interested in that only they have taken it on from £1,900 - but I suppose just two interested bidders is all an auction needs to achieve a good price.

[Othen]

The seller has decided to start this auction high at £3,000:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224718778...53.m1438.l2649

I'd have thought that should be the ending bid rather than the start, so the seller may risk getting no bids unless someone really wants a worthy but mediocre motor car that is a long way from the historic vehicle premium.

Alan

[loki_the_glt]

Given that there's a sticker on the instrument panel saying "unleaded gasoline only" is it possible that the car belonged to an airman based at Royal United States Air Force Base Soesterberg?

Our colonial subjects drive on the wrong side of the road and refer to petrol as "gas(oline)" but at least stick with imperial distances even if their gallon is a lot smaller than ours.

[Othen]

Originally Posted by loki_the_glt

Given that there's a sticker on the instrument panel saying "unleaded gasoline only" is it possible that the car belonged to an airman based at Royal United States Air Force Base Soesterberg?

Our colonial subjects drive on the wrong side of the road and refer to petrol as "gas(oline)" but at least stick with imperial distances even if their gallon is a lot smaller than ours.

Royal United States Air Force Alf? I don't think the cousins would sign up to the Royal bit since 1776!

If my memory serves me right Soesterberg was operated by the Dutch AF (hence there would probably be a Royal bit somewhere in its title, I can't remember exactly where). I think you are probably right, the 242 was probably owned by either a serviceman or consular official - either American or other NATO and supplied by AFFES.

Alan