Potential XC90 Owner

[Tannaton]

Originally Posted by A lex

'sold as seen' does not exist if you are a trader, no matter what they write on the receipt or what you sign.

Nothing is black and white, and the various shades of grey will be interpreted differently by different people....

If the car has a known fault, and this is pointed out and is signed 'as seen', then I agree the dealer is pretty much absolved of their responsibility, particularly on a cheap used car.

However, if the dealer (for example) sells you the car as having an OK engine and gearbox, and it blows up the next day.... you are covered under the Sales of Goods Act, no matter what he has had you sign the day before.

Essentially - faults pointed out by the dealer and you acknowledge as being present = not dealers responsibility. Faults not pointed out or that become apparent within 3 months = dealer responsibility, regardless of what they might try to tell you at the time of sale.

There are two main factors that come in to play - a) that the goods and services are "fit for the purpose for which there are sold" and d) that the goods and services are of "merchantable quality" - this can also interpreted as faithfully (accurately) described.

If a trader sells a vehicle which is described as "salvage" or "spare parts/repairs use only" this absolves them of pretty much any responsibility unless they have made any other specific claims (e.g. "good engine"). To be fully compliant - they really should also stipulate on the invoice "to be recovered by trailer".

That said my knowledge is 10 years old from when I worked in the motor trade, things might have changed now but not substantially.

Where this particular trader falls down is they described their cars as spares/repairs but then offer unlimited test drives.................. that could get them into hot water, especially with the new road tax rules in place.

[Tannaton]

So is there are Green XC90 on your drive? Was it a lemon or a peach?

[BlackBeast]

Originally Posted by Tannaton

So is there are Green XC90 on your drive? Was it a lemon or a peach?

There is indeed, but it is a lemon. Needs plenty of work doing to it to get it to a decent standard.

[A lex]

So how did their business model work out.... I presume you paid less than what you won the auction for?

[Chesney46]

I bought mine from them, they listed the faults, I knew what I was getting into and it was cheap enough that the repairs aren't going to be silly money. Most of it is just wear and tear stuff, although the splined sleeve is shot and the intercooler has started blowing (saying that though, I've had it since March and done a fair amount of miles in it). There are a couple of other problems, but nothing that stops it going and can be sorted as and when.

[BlackBeast]

It is now back up on ebay.

To get it into reasonable condition and mot passible it would need the following:

Headgasket or replacement head or more cost effective a replacement engine
Cambelt kit and auxillary kit
Thermostat kit
Radiator
Expansion tank and cap
Intercooler
Gear linkage bush fore motion (3rd can be difficult to select)
Angle gear
Investigate low oil pressure with the DEM/AOC
Discs all round
Pads all round
Shoes
Steering rack adjusted for slack in offside or replacement rack
Control arm bushes and balljoints on front
Trailing arm bushes on rear
Rear parking sensor kit

[Tannaton]

Originally Posted by BlackBeast

It is now back up on ebay.

To get it into reasonable condition and mot passible it would need the following:

Have just had a look at it on e-bay.... sounds like some of the above would render it un-roadworthy yet they are still offering test drives... did the give you trade plates to test drive it given it cannot be taxed now?

[BlackBeast]

Originally Posted by Tannaton

Have just had a look at it on e-bay.... sounds like some of the above would render it un-roadworthy yet they are still offering test drives... did the give you trade plates to test drive it given it cannot be taxed now?

Nope.....!

[BlackBeast]

Seems to have sold on ebay, hope it works out for who ever bought it.

Would have kept it if it wasn't for the coolant issue.

Ah well, it has at least confirmed that an XC is what we need, preferably an XC90, but if I find a top spec XC70 it will be difficult to turn down.

[BlackBeast]

For those that are interested, its back up on ebay again.