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Old Nov 5th, 2020, 08:20   #11
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Had another thought. If the vehicle has been lowered or the ride height is incorrect due to saggy springs there could perhaps be problems with steering components touching parts they were not designed to touch...
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Old Nov 5th, 2020, 09:30   #12
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You can't mount the arm upside down
Still you can mount the pitman arm bushing in a wrong way
Did you change anything at the pitman arm combination?
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Looking at my standard car, you appear to have the steering arm correctly assembled but your anti roll bar looks to be substantially thicker than standard and may also be fitted slightly lower due to the bushing under the chassis member. If you chop back the thread on the knuckle joint, it may well clear.
I can't see that suspension articulation would affect this, but if the bushes on the anti roll bar (sway bar in US) are soft enough, then it is possible that with the car jacked up and suspension fully extended, this may make the situation worse.
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Just had a look under mine, as above, a somewhat thinner anti roll bar, but the clearance on the left had side of your car looks correct, so the fault must be in the idler, somehow. Putting the weight back on the wheels won't make any difference to the position of the components between the chassis rails. The idler to chassis mounting hasn't been repaired/altered, has it?
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If you are absolutely sure nothing has changed and all was well before you took it to bits...

...I would check

1) That the pitman arm on the steering box is not in the wrong position. (As in splines on shaft)
2) Nothing has been installed upside down
3) Nothing has been put back on backwards / wrong way round

Sometimes it is easy to put things on upside down or backwards

If you have changed steering boxes or idler arms then you need to make sure you've got the correct part numbers and measure the lengths.

On the whole I would expect the heights of the idler arm and the pitman arm to be the same. Most cars have a specification for this in the work shop manual (sorry can't find my PV book at the moment - so I can't look it up for you)
1. The pittman arm is in the correct position, it has a factory setting mark and other marks were added before disassembly.
2. Will check, even tough it doesn’t appear possible
3. Same as above

The steering box is the same, overhauled, idle arm was only cleaned and painted
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Had another thought. If the vehicle has been lowered or the ride height is incorrect due to saggy springs there could perhaps be problems with steering components touching parts they were not designed to touch...
Thank you Army
The suspension is new, but standard
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Looking at my standard car, you appear to have the steering arm correctly assembled but your anti roll bar looks to be substantially thicker than standard and may also be fitted slightly lower due to the bushing under the chassis member. If you chop back the thread on the knuckle joint, it may well clear.
I can't see that suspension articulation would affect this, but if the bushes on the anti roll bar (sway bar in US) are soft enough, then it is possible that with the car jacked up and suspension fully extended, this may make the situation worse.
The roll bar is thicker, is the IPD conversion and was installed previous to the restoration without issues.
There is most likely an assembly issue on the idler arm side, the distances between steering arms and roll bar are different on both sides, the bushings are new.
Received an answer from Rob Henchoz to check the idle arm supports, I will do that in a few hours (it’s 4 am here)
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Just had a look under mine, as above, a somewhat thinner anti roll bar, but the clearance on the left had side of your car looks correct, so the fault must be in the idler, somehow. Putting the weight back on the wheels won't make any difference to the position of the components between the chassis rails. The idler to chassis mounting hasn't been repaired/altered, has it?
Thank you Andy for checking, as mentioned earlier, Rob Henchoz believes that the problem is around the idler arm. The mounting has not been altered in any way. Will keep on searching
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I am most grateful for your suggestions, keep them coming!
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Certainly the centre tie rod, the adjustable one, should be parallel to both the ground and the ARB. A picture of the whole front from underneath would be useful to see if that looks to be the case.
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