Volvo Community Forum. The Forums of the Volvo Owners Club

Forum Rules Volvo Owners Club About VOC Volvo Gallery Links Volvo History Volvo Press
Go Back   Volvo Owners Club Forum > "Technical Topics" > S80 '98-'06 / S60 '00-'09 / V70 & XC70 '00-'07 General
Register Members Cars Help Calendar Extra Stuff

Notices

S80 '98-'06 / S60 '00-'09 / V70 & XC70 '00-'07 General Forum for the P2-platform S60 / V70 / XC70 / S80 models

Information
  • VOC Members: There is no login facility using your VOC membership number or the details from page 3 of the club magazine. You need to register in the normal way
  • AOL Customers: Make sure you check the 'Remember me' check box otherwise the AOL system may log you out during the session. This is a known issue with AOL.
  • AOL, Yahoo and Plus.net users. Forum owners such as us are finding that AOL, Yahoo and Plus.net are blocking a lot of email generated from forums. This may mean your registration activation and other emails will not get to you, or they may appear in your spam mailbox

Thread Informations

Strut Brace Bushes

Views : 10277

Replies : 126

Users Viewing This Thread :  

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Aug 9th, 2013, 04:12   #1
Brams
Junior Member
 

Last Online: Mar 13th, 2023 05:17
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Canterbury
Question Strut Brace Bushes

After reading a few things online & feeling my strut brace had a bit much play in it I ordered a Poly Bush Strut Brace Tensioning Kit from Powerflex (PFF88-614).



It stiffened up the play but I don't know whether the Upper Engine Mount (cross shaped) needs replacing. There is some marking on the bracket from what looks to be excessive play. Should I change his as well as the small bush at the back?




On a lighter note here's my new grille I made.


Last edited by Brams; Aug 9th, 2013 at 04:19.
Brams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 9th, 2013, 08:56   #2
Brendan W
Premier Member
 
Brendan W's Avatar
 

Last Online: Apr 2nd, 2024 19:50
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Wexford
Default

Strictly speaking that bar is not really bracing anything. It's more of a hanger rail for the motor to restrict it's movement during normal operation and hang on to it in case of frontal impact. The gaps in the top mount look normal to me and I would expect 6mm+ of movement fore and aft there. If the rubber is not cracked or obviously perished I would leave well alone.You also have the later style longer lasting square mount. I see you have a diesel. Many owners have tried with poly things to eliminate free play of the top engine mount and experienced awful vibration in the cabin and reverted to the stock set up. This is less of an issue with the petrol motors.
Brendan W is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Brendan W For This Useful Post:
Old Aug 9th, 2013, 18:26   #3
Brams
Junior Member
 

Last Online: Mar 13th, 2023 05:17
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Canterbury
Default

Thanks Brandan, I'll check for any cracking etc & leave them be if it's all ok. I have notice a little vibration in the car recently but think this may be down to either a lost wheel balance weight or alignment issues caused by the mahooosive pot hole I hit when travelling down a country lane & being forced to avoid an idiot in a van (grrrr).
Brams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 9th, 2013, 21:16   #4
TiredGeek
Master Member
 
TiredGeek's Avatar
 

Last Online: Sep 29th, 2022 20:46
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Leeds
Default

Brams, get some large washers and put them between the cast aluminium and the bar, clamp it tight to eliminate all movement and you've got a "proper" strut brace

That top mount doesn't look right to me. I've checked mine and it looks from the pictures that your's is off centre, whereas mine is equally spaced. You're clearly getting metal to metal contact and that's not right. Pull it apart and see if it's breaking up.... fairly cheap on ebay if it needs a new one
__________________

Defected to BMW. 335d xdrive.
TiredGeek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 10th, 2013, 18:13   #5
Brams
Junior Member
 

Last Online: Mar 13th, 2023 05:17
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Canterbury
Default

TiredGeek - Thanks for pointing that out I hadn't actually noticed it was off-center, I'll take a look at it closer now. Would the small bush at the back of that arm cause it to move if it were u/s as well?
Brams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 10th, 2013, 22:58   #6
RM955I
Premier Member
 
RM955I's Avatar
 

Last Online: Jun 26th, 2022 23:42
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Midlands
Default

Also check the lower torque mount (gearbox mounted) small bush - if the top goes the lower mount small bush normal does.
__________________
D5, 205 Phase 3 V70...love the grunt.
Previous: 2004 (2005 facelift) 2.4 170
RM955I is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12th, 2013, 00:14   #7
Brams
Junior Member
 

Last Online: Mar 13th, 2023 05:17
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Canterbury
Default

Just comparing pics from mine to the Powerflex Poly bush mine looks like it's sagging rearwards compared to the poly one. Time for a replacement??

Brams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12th, 2013, 19:02   #8
GeoffV70
Junior Member
 

Last Online: Oct 9th, 2016 21:52
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Ipswich
Default

The rubber bush in my V70's "top mount" had disintegrated, so I replaced it this weekend.

Thanks to this forum, I now know its purpose is in the vertical plane rather than the horizontal, but I am still amazed at the difference a sloppy bush connected to a wibbly-wobbly bar makes, it has really made an all round difference to my gear change, engine noise etc and I think it was well worth doing.

It cost £27.29 with p&p from Charlton via ebay, the only thing is that the tapped threads at the front are not deep enough to tighten the bolts that hold the metal eye at the front (lifting eye? doesn't look strong enough-is that it's purpose?) so i used nuts as spacers.

Geoff
GeoffV70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12th, 2013, 20:59   #9
Brams
Junior Member
 

Last Online: Mar 13th, 2023 05:17
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Canterbury
Default

Cheers Geoff, was it this one LINK
Does it just come with the bush or is the aluminium bracket shown included? You say it made a difference in engine noise, do you mean it made things quieter? How did it affect the gear change? I think I might just have to bite the bullet & order the poly bush to match the tensioner ones
Brams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12th, 2013, 21:51   #10
GeoffV70
Junior Member
 

Last Online: Oct 9th, 2016 21:52
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Ipswich
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brams View Post
Cheers Geoff, was it this one LINK
Does it just come with the bush or is the aluminium bracket shown included? You say it made a difference in engine noise, do you mean it made things quieter? How did it affect the gear change? I think I might just have to bite the bullet & order the poly bush to match the tensioner ones
Yes, thats the one, both bush and aluminium housing included. Came the day after I ordered it too. Gear change is smoother, more positive, especially that one from 1st to 2nd! Under accleration there is less noise (although I quite liked the old Subaru ish noise!) And on idle before, the engine used to sometimes feel as if it was idling roughly, I suppose the engine was rocking around more. And the handling feels more positive, again I suppose the engine moving around less.

I think it might be better not to polybush this one though, judging by this thread and others.

HTH
GeoffV70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:25.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.