Electrics: 70: - window problem help needed

ernie bluenose · Jun 5th, 2019, 14:50

Hi all,

For sometime now i have suffered with the common problem of the drivers door window pack suffering a fault inasmuch that all windows work but the rear passenger window would only go down but not up.

This has not been a problem as the switch on the rear door worked and could be raised from there.
As i rarely have rear passengers i have just lived with it.

Today though i did have a rear passenger who put the window down and lo and behold the door switch has also stopped working so i am stuck with an open window which i cannot close.

Is there any easy way to fix this before i can get to an auto electrician and what is likely to be the cause.

Any help and info greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Ernie.

Bob Meadows · Jun 5th, 2019, 15:10

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showt...rs+door+switch

This link should help: ~ although I still have the new replacement ready to fit (left hand) the original is still working! Quite a common problem I think.
Bob,

ernie bluenose · Jun 5th, 2019, 15:11

Bob, Thanks for the link. Ernie

Bob Meadows · Jun 5th, 2019, 15:33

No problem Ernie: ~ you may just get away with a good clean of the contacts? Watch out for the small internal springs/parts (you can open up in a large clear plastic bag or covered bowl if it helps) had to do mine a couple of times but as previously mentioned it worked for me.
The alternative is the L/H switch rather than the second mortgage Volvo part!
See previous correspondence regarding the wire changes and the importance of getting the same right if you do change the switch pack.
Good Luck
Bob.

ernie bluenose · Jun 5th, 2019, 15:48

Thanks Bob,
Is there any reason why the switch on the rear passenger door has just stopped working today even though the drivers switch has been out of action for over 12 months. Is it allied to the drivers switch pack.

Do not want to purchase a new one for £125 odd and find i still have a problem. Cheers Ernie

ernie bluenose · Jun 5th, 2019, 15:50

Sorry meant to add i am useless with electrics and soldering so a lhd is a no go.Ernie

SteveSarre · Jun 5th, 2019, 16:18

Hi Ernie,

You might be lucky to find that if you swap the two rear switches over, you have then find one that will put the window up.

They are not that expensive new (and they fit both left and right rear doors)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-S70...-/293062977562

If that doesn't work, then tackling the master switch is the next option, either with known good used, or converting a LHD unit.

Or (I can't remember) if you remove and disconnect the switch revealing the wires to the rear window motor, you might be able to provide power directly to the window winding motor from a 12v supply to make the window go up. That would be at your own risk because you could do some damage if you short things out.

Steve

Steve

SteveSarre · Jun 5th, 2019, 16:20

Hi Ernie,

Check that the rear passengers can control their own windows.
The ON/OFF button on the master switch turns that feature on and off to prevent kids adjusting the windows.

Steve

ernie bluenose · Jun 5th, 2019, 16:22

Re SteveSarre,
Good suggestion about changing the rear switches over. Will try that first.

If that does not solve the problem it looks like it will be a new master switch.
Thanks Ernie

ernie bluenose · Jun 5th, 2019, 16:31

Steve,
You are a genius,just been out and checked the on/off switch and as you rightly surmised that was the problem.
Rear window now closed from switch on the window itself.
What would people do without this forum. Thank you very much greatly appreciated. Ernie

Jun 5th, 2019, 14:50	#1
ernie bluenose Senior Member Last Online: Aug 9th, 2021 14:43 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: walsall	window problem help needed Hi all, For sometime now i have suffered with the common problem of the drivers door window pack suffering a fault inasmuch that all windows work but the rear passenger window would only go down but not up. This has not been a problem as the switch on the rear door worked and could be raised from there. As i rarely have rear passengers i have just lived with it. Today though i did have a rear passenger who put the window down and lo and behold the door switch has also stopped working so i am stuck with an open window which i cannot close. Is there any easy way to fix this before i can get to an auto electrician and what is likely to be the cause. Any help and info greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Ernie.

Jun 5th, 2019, 16:18	#7
SteveSarre Premier Member Last Online: Today 15:47 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London/West Country	Hi Ernie, You might be lucky to find that if you swap the two rear switches over, you have then find one that will put the window up. They are not that expensive new (and they fit both left and right rear doors) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-S70...-/293062977562 If that doesn't work, then tackling the master switch is the next option, either with known good used, or converting a LHD unit. Or (I can't remember) if you remove and disconnect the switch revealing the wires to the rear window motor, you might be able to provide power directly to the window winding motor from a 12v supply to make the window go up. That would be at your own risk because you could do some damage if you short things out. Steve Steve __________________ V70 2.5 Turbo AWD Man. 1999 Red V70 2.5 10V Auto 1998 Green C70 T 20V Auto Conv. 2001 Blue, C70 T5 Auto Conv. 2000 Blue V70 2.5 Turbo AWD Auto 1998 Green, V70 2.5 10V Auto BiFuel 1999 Red (scrapped) V70 20v Auto 1999 Green (scrapped)

Jun 5th, 2019, 16:20	#8
SteveSarre Premier Member Last Online: Today 15:47 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London/West Country	Hi Ernie, Check that the rear passengers can control their own windows. The ON/OFF button on the master switch turns that feature on and off to prevent kids adjusting the windows. Steve __________________ V70 2.5 Turbo AWD Man. 1999 Red V70 2.5 10V Auto 1998 Green C70 T 20V Auto Conv. 2001 Blue, C70 T5 Auto Conv. 2000 Blue V70 2.5 Turbo AWD Auto 1998 Green, V70 2.5 10V Auto BiFuel 1999 Red (scrapped) V70 20v Auto 1999 Green (scrapped)

Jun 5th, 2019, 15:10	#2
Bob Meadows Premier Member Last Online: Today 19:45 Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: STANDISH LANCASHIRE	https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showt...rs+door+switch This link should help: ~ although I still have the new replacement ready to fit (left hand) the original is still working! Quite a common problem I think. Bob,

Jun 5th, 2019, 15:11	#3
ernie bluenose Senior Member Last Online: Aug 9th, 2021 14:43 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: walsall	Bob, Thanks for the link. Ernie

Jun 5th, 2019, 15:33	#4
Bob Meadows Premier Member Last Online: Today 19:45 Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: STANDISH LANCASHIRE	No problem Ernie: ~ you may just get away with a good clean of the contacts? Watch out for the small internal springs/parts (you can open up in a large clear plastic bag or covered bowl if it helps) had to do mine a couple of times but as previously mentioned it worked for me. The alternative is the L/H switch rather than the second mortgage Volvo part! See previous correspondence regarding the wire changes and the importance of getting the same right if you do change the switch pack. Good Luck Bob.

Jun 5th, 2019, 15:48	#5
ernie bluenose Senior Member Last Online: Aug 9th, 2021 14:43 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: walsall	Thanks Bob, Is there any reason why the switch on the rear passenger door has just stopped working today even though the drivers switch has been out of action for over 12 months. Is it allied to the drivers switch pack. Do not want to purchase a new one for £125 odd and find i still have a problem. Cheers Ernie

Jun 5th, 2019, 15:50	#6
ernie bluenose Senior Member Last Online: Aug 9th, 2021 14:43 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: walsall	Sorry meant to add i am useless with electrics and soldering so a lhd is a no go.Ernie

Jun 5th, 2019, 16:22	#9
ernie bluenose Senior Member Last Online: Aug 9th, 2021 14:43 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: walsall	Re SteveSarre, Good suggestion about changing the rear switches over. Will try that first. If that does not solve the problem it looks like it will be a new master switch. Thanks Ernie

Jun 5th, 2019, 16:31	#10
ernie bluenose Senior Member Last Online: Aug 9th, 2021 14:43 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: walsall	Steve, You are a genius,just been out and checked the on/off switch and as you rightly surmised that was the problem. Rear window now closed from switch on the window itself. What would people do without this forum. Thank you very much greatly appreciated. Ernie

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