Need help fitting front foglights

[sholtby]

I'm in contact with a guy who is going to send me the front fog lights and switch off an 850. What else do I need? There seems to already be some wires running close to where the lights will go and there is a connector that the switch will plug into next to the headlight switch.
Do I need an extra wiring?
I'm sure there is an extra relay that needs fitting and I seem to recall it goes under the steering column. What colour is the relay and where specifically does it plug in under the dash.
Any help appreciated.

Thanks

Simon

[warthog]

Simon,

From my parts lists it shows two wiring looms and a relay in addition to the lights, switch and misc. cable ties etc.

The relay goes in position 201 on the relay panel above the pedals on the drivers side (that's the top left hand corner of the relay panel in the first position) From the diagrams it looks as if one wiring harness fits onto the relay and then goes possibly via another multi plug into the main loom (or it could go via the switch). The second harness looks as though it's the loom to join the two fog lights together and link into the loom back to the switch at a common point.

It's not clear whether the relay is common to the rear fog lights or if they are just operated via the switch on it's own (quite possible as the rear fog lights wouldn't draw the current that the front ones would)

It may be that you've already got all the wiring that you need and it's just a matter of plugging a relay and switch in to get the lights working.

Hope this helps

[liuleichan]

>I'm in contact with a guy who is going to send me the front
>fog lights and switch off an 850. What else do I need? There
>seems to already be some wires running close to where the
>lights will go and there is a connector that the switch will
>plug into next to the headlight switch.
>Do I need an extra wiring?
>I'm sure there is an extra relay that needs fitting and I
>seem to recall it goes under the steering column. What colour
>is the relay and where specifically does it plug in under the
>dash.
>Any help appreciated.
>
>Thanks

To be honest, I'd spare yourself the time and hassle.

In the 3+ years I've owned my S70, and 80k+ miles in that time, I've never once had occasion to use them.

They're just another lense to crack, and bulb to replace - oh and an indication to other road users (when they're switched on) that there's likely an idiot behind the wheel.

[sarge]

I'd be inclined to agree. You could fit the lights (and even the switch for that matter) but whether or not the two are connected probably doesn't matter - unless of course you drive in thick fog or heavy snow a lot.

Sarge
'99 V70 AWD

[sholtby]

Thanks Brian, very helpful. I have had a look at the relay panel and there is a yellow relay base where you mentioned. Very difficult to get to though.
I have looked in my Haynes manual at the fog light wiring diagram and it says the wires that go to the fogs are green/orange and black. The spare connectors next to the fog lamp openings are these colours. I'm hopeing that all I need then is the switch and relay.
The 850 fog lights are supposed to be rubbish so its a bit of a waste of time and money fitting them. I'm just tired of looking at those holes in the bumper.
I'd probably be better buying some ducting to flow the air onto the brakes to help cool them !

Thanks

Simon

hi
i'm trying to do the same on my v70 and i have a lime green / white and a brown relay holder free which one does the relay fit in ?

bought a fog lamp relay from volvo today a lime green one which fitted into slot 213

still no front fogs but i do need a relay for slot 201 but volvo dont know which relay it is can anybody find out the part number for this relay.

Socket it plugs into is light brown ?

[sholtby]

I did a search on Vadis for a pre 2000 V70 and it came up with 'Fog Relay' 213 part number 9148879. It does plug in on that relay panel below the steering.
A relay for position 201 isnt listed. Infact position 201 isnt listed. If you have an 850 the fog light relay is in position 201 and in a V70 its at position 213. I would have expected your lights to work with just the relay you have. That is assuming all the wiring is present.

Simon

Tools needed

•Torx head screwdriver
•Relay / Fuse plan
•A small degree of patience

Parts needed

Fog lamps – from Volvo these are approx £ 260 a set. From a breakers yard e.g. Volparts in Preston Lancs – 01772709221 = £60 a set.

Lower bumper skirt – Part number 822660121 (Euro Car Parts) you probably won’t need this as the standard 850 bumper is pre marked on the backside for fog holes to be cut. If you do want one, these are available from Euro Car Parts unpainted for £ 79.99 plus VAT or from Volvo themselves. You might want to upgrade to the R type lower bumper from Volvo, these are expensive though at about £170 unpainted. The option I took though which has to be the best is to get a bumper complete with fogs, brackets etc from a breakers (I paid £50) and get it painted to match (£100)

Lamp brackets – order these from Volvo or get them from a breakers yard. It is important that they are the right type as the bumper fits over these and the fogs pop out of the holes. You can always make some if you have one to copy, it wouldn’t be hard but at probably £10 to £20 from a breakers its worth just buying some.

Rubber seals for the holes – unless you get a complete bumper you will need these…2 round shaped water seals that fit around the fog holes cut in the lower bumper. I would advise that these are fitted as water will not then wash onto the lamps, connections and brackets, etc when driving.

Front Fog switch – Part number – 9128536
The switch back is yellow and costs £18.65 + VAT …the end of the loom is yellow. The switch locates on the left of the headlamp switch; if you have a headlamp adjustment switch there it will be the one next to that.

Relay - part number 9494424
This is a 5 pin relay and costs £14.60 plus VAT. Get a new one, as if it’s a dud, you will get to the end and “no lamps”.

Jumper Plug 213 – Part number 9148992
This is a tall relay shaped part with a green base. There are 2 types, one is Jap spec and one isn’t, you need the UK one. Tell the Volvo parts guy it’s the one which does not have J before the part number on their system.

How to fit your bits

The lower section of your bumper is removable, You will need to take the bumper off to fit the fog lamp mounting brackets and cut the fog holes if need be.

The bumper is a 3 piece section, an alloy bumper which is not visible with the bumper fitted, the top plastic section above the number plate, and the lower painted plastic skirt.

The lamp brackets have 3 torx head screws. Mount the brackets on the alloy bumper bar and the lamps onto the brackets. You can tell the correct sides to fit them as the lamp lenses are angled to be flush with the flow of the bumper. Check that the bulbs and wiring are in good order before fitting the fogs. Clean out the rear covers of the lamps. Change the bulbs if needed before fitting, if not they are more difficult to change once put back together.

If you need to cut the holes in the lower part of the bumper use a drill with a cutting bit and cut out from behind following the pre marked circle. Fit the rubber seals round the holes once you’ve smoothed the outer edges off. Refit the outer bumper the way you took it off.

The fogs connect to the pre wired loom, the plugs you will find pinned up inside the outer edges of the underside plastic engine cover. Plug the fogs in.

Check the 15 amp fuse is in place Number 18, in your standard fuse box (base of windscreen, driver’s side)

The relay and jumper plug are in the relay box up under the drivers side foot well inside the car, the cover is held in with 3 torx head screws. Remove the cover and look up to the right corner. Behind a mass of wiring you will see a relay board. You can tell it’s the relay board as it is white and will have relays in it : )

The relay you have bought fits into the top left hand socket in position 201. Mine was hidden from view by the large purple double relay which operates the interior lights and probably some other things. Take this out fit your relay. The top left hand socket is where it goes. (It will only fit one way).

The green based jumper plug is easier (the tall relay). It’s the bottom left hand socket 213 which is colour coded green to match. Once fitted, leave the foot well cover off for the time being.

All that is left to do is fit the dash switch….pop out the blanking cover next to the headlamp switch, If you have a headlamp adjuster switch there is the one next to that. You should see a yellow plug connector behind there, if you can’t see it have a reach around cos it’s in there. The switch plug is a precise fit so can’t be fitted into any other connector in error. Pop the switch back into the dash and bobs your uncle.

Your fogs should light up with the ignition on and the lamps on side lights. If they only work with main headlamps on then you have been given the jap spec jumper plug.

Troubleshooting

•Fog Lamps don’t come on. - Check the main parts of the circuit with a multi meter. Dont give up now cos you've done the hard work

Is there power to the relay?

To do this ignition off, remove the relay, connect black earth lead to a suitable earth, and the red lead to pin 30 position (look on the back of the relay to where this should plug in) there should be a current with the ignition on headlamps / sidelights on and fog switch turned on. If there is no current, then check the fuse under the bonnet. If the fuse is ok then suspect a wiring fault between the 2 points.

If there is power to the relay and the switch yet no fogs either the relay or the jumper plug is faulty.

If all these are fine then check the connectors at the fogs. If no current is present then suspect a wiring fault in the loom.

[sholtby]

Thanks very much for taking the time to write that comprehensive guide on fitting fog lights.
I sent a cheque off yesterday to buy a second hand set of lights and switch. When they arrive I'll order the relay etc from Volvo.
It's going to be a pain removing the bumper to fit the brackets. I'll have to look into how thats done.
Thanks again

Simon