Engine Mount given out - the evidence! - Page 2

spyda · Jan 13th, 2008, 18:54

Thanks for all replies ... would definitely be interested to see comparative photos from anyone that can provide.

Cheers.

Enigma666 · Jan 13th, 2008, 20:02

Ooh and check and regap the plugs....when was the last time you had the coil packs and plugs changed?

spyda · Jan 13th, 2008, 20:11

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Originally Posted by Enigma666

Ooh and check and regap the plugs....when was the last time you had the coil packs and plugs changed?

A fair while ago, admittedly, but surely if that was contributing to the problem that too would be a gradual thing?

Enigma666 · Jan 13th, 2008, 22:47

A bad coil pack wont always cause gradual degradation, it can go at the click of your fingers mate.
If it's due a service then (if possible) do it yourself.
Change the plugs first...good old OEM for these and then see if the problem persists.
If it does, the coil packs next.
After that....it's all a process of elimination.
Have you checked the fuel pump out of interest?

spyda · Jan 14th, 2008, 07:35

Fair enough - well thanks again for the suggestions. I'm not as well up on this stuff as I would like to be so a lot of the simple checks I may well have overlooked.

Due to a comment made previously I am reluctant to turn the engine over again to be honest, think perhaps best to leave to the experts.

I have had a few issues with the car lately, notably the engine mounts but also the car drifting to the left all the time despite full tracking several times and wheels being swapped. I have always wanted to resolve this before doing the mounts as I did not want to fork out the money if the drifting could not be cured.

Having done 125k miles I am at a stage where I have to consider whether it's worth throwing more money at it or looking at other options. Either way, as it stands, the car cannot be sold as is so something needs doing.

As I say, I have done all the testing I dare do so I think it's time to hand over to the experts!

Thanks again for all help from everyone, wish me luck!

spyda · Jan 17th, 2008, 18:08

An update ...

Ok, things are most definitely looking up but I am not in the clear yet!

The main culprit of the problem - a dodgy spark plug! Just the one. I think it was the third one that was absolutely soaked (in fuel). Althoiugh the others were all black, they were not wet.

Anyway, a new set of plugs appears to have sorted out the misfire. Yes, a misfire! From the effects I was getting it felt like the engine was dropping out or I had square wheels or something ... I am having a hard time believing that one plug (or all) was the cause of this.

Anyway, misfire sorted the car now starts and runs smoothly ... that is until you take your foot of the accellerator. The revs just die and the engine cuts out. Now I was under the impression that Engine Management Unit would need to re-program itself following the failure so the car was brought upto running temp and eventually, it held the revs on its own.

However, on a drive round the block the revs died several times when pulling upto junctions. I figured the engine management unit would do its thing and all would be ok after a while, but not so.

As it stands, the car starts fine but will NOT maintain revs and therefore will not tick over.

Something else has to have happened to cause this. As I say, a vast improvement but not in the clear yet. :-(

wa666ou · Jan 18th, 2008, 00:12

Interesting...
There could be several reasons for dying like that.
1. I'm not sure, if dirty IAC (idle air control) valve could really cause that, but mine was very dirty and car died a lot of times. After cleaning it, problem just dissapeared.
2. Fuel pump, or/and filter - if there's issue with getting fuel it will die. Been there and fixed it.
3. Fuel pressure regulator?

Maybe something else.

spyda · Jan 18th, 2008, 11:39

Thanks for the pointers ... it's interesting that the idle problem has only really surfaced since the spark plug gave out causing a major misfire.

Could any of these (or anything else) be caused as a result of the misfire?

manoman48 · Jan 18th, 2008, 13:31

Have you driven it far since changing the plugs?

Just wondering if an Italian service would help... i.e. some 'spirited' driving

niloc · Jan 18th, 2008, 13:45

To check the engine mounts, grab the engine and try rocking it back and fore...

Jan 17th, 2008, 18:08	#16
spyda Member Last Online: Jun 20th, 2009 23:53 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sheffield	Progress report An update ... Ok, things are most definitely looking up but I am not in the clear yet! The main culprit of the problem - a dodgy spark plug! Just the one. I think it was the third one that was absolutely soaked (in fuel). Althoiugh the others were all black, they were not wet. Anyway, a new set of plugs appears to have sorted out the misfire. Yes, a misfire! From the effects I was getting it felt like the engine was dropping out or I had square wheels or something ... I am having a hard time believing that one plug (or all) was the cause of this. Anyway, misfire sorted the car now starts and runs smoothly ... that is until you take your foot of the accellerator. The revs just die and the engine cuts out. Now I was under the impression that Engine Management Unit would need to re-program itself following the failure so the car was brought upto running temp and eventually, it held the revs on its own. However, on a drive round the block the revs died several times when pulling upto junctions. I figured the engine management unit would do its thing and all would be ok after a while, but not so. As it stands, the car starts fine but will NOT maintain revs and therefore will not tick over. Something else has to have happened to cause this. As I say, a vast improvement but not in the clear yet. :-(

Jan 18th, 2008, 13:45	#20
niloc SWV Benefactor Last Online: Jan 30th, 2013 13:44 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Newport, South Wales	To check the engine mounts, grab the engine and try rocking it back and fore... __________________ Refitting is the reverse of removal???.....Yeah, right!

Jan 13th, 2008, 18:54	#11
spyda Member Last Online: Jun 20th, 2009 23:53 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sheffield	Thanks for all replies ... would definitely be interested to see comparative photos from anyone that can provide. Cheers.

Jan 13th, 2008, 20:02	#12
Enigma666 Master Member Last Online: Apr 16th, 2021 11:32 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chester	Ooh and check and regap the plugs....when was the last time you had the coil packs and plugs changed?

Jan 13th, 2008, 22:47	#14
Enigma666 Master Member Last Online: Apr 16th, 2021 11:32 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chester	A bad coil pack wont always cause gradual degradation, it can go at the click of your fingers mate. If it's due a service then (if possible) do it yourself. Change the plugs first...good old OEM for these and then see if the problem persists. If it does, the coil packs next. After that....it's all a process of elimination. Have you checked the fuel pump out of interest?

Jan 14th, 2008, 07:35	#15
spyda Member Last Online: Jun 20th, 2009 23:53 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sheffield	Fair enough - well thanks again for the suggestions. I'm not as well up on this stuff as I would like to be so a lot of the simple checks I may well have overlooked. Due to a comment made previously I am reluctant to turn the engine over again to be honest, think perhaps best to leave to the experts. I have had a few issues with the car lately, notably the engine mounts but also the car drifting to the left all the time despite full tracking several times and wheels being swapped. I have always wanted to resolve this before doing the mounts as I did not want to fork out the money if the drifting could not be cured. Having done 125k miles I am at a stage where I have to consider whether it's worth throwing more money at it or looking at other options. Either way, as it stands, the car cannot be sold as is so something needs doing. As I say, I have done all the testing I dare do so I think it's time to hand over to the experts! Thanks again for all help from everyone, wish me luck!

Jan 18th, 2008, 00:12	#17
wa666ou Junior Member Last Online: Jan 26th, 2016 08:34 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kermarne	Interesting... There could be several reasons for dying like that. 1. I'm not sure, if dirty IAC (idle air control) valve could really cause that, but mine was very dirty and car died a lot of times. After cleaning it, problem just dissapeared. 2. Fuel pump, or/and filter - if there's issue with getting fuel it will die. Been there and fixed it. 3. Fuel pressure regulator? Maybe something else.

Jan 18th, 2008, 11:39	#18
spyda Member Last Online: Jun 20th, 2009 23:53 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sheffield	Thanks for the pointers ... it's interesting that the idle problem has only really surfaced since the spark plug gave out causing a major misfire. Could any of these (or anything else) be caused as a result of the misfire?

Jan 18th, 2008, 13:31	#19
manoman48 Master Member Last Online: Apr 28th, 2023 11:20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sc.unthorpe	Have you driven it far since changing the plugs? Just wondering if an Italian service would help... i.e. some 'spirited' driving

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