Reconditioned engine

[Ed Mac]

Originally Posted by Semnoz

I'm concerned you're going to run into a load of hassle trying to remove those injectors.

I'm not sure what you mean by pinning the camshaft. You can use a locking device on the pulley if you are really worried about it spinning round when you remove the timing belt. The point I'm making here is that you don't need to take the top cover off to pin the camshaft in place - just get something to lock the pulley.

I still think you have a wiring fault. I'd unravel all the black tape of the wiring going to your crankshaft and camshaft sensors and injector solenoids and look for broken insulation that's causing an intermitten short circuit.

The timing belt has been done with the marks in the appropriate places - however, I'm still getting a camshaft position error message. It's possible i might be a tooth out - it's happens. 'Pinning the camshaft' is a garage term for pinning it from the inside so there's no dubiety. (Don't ask me, I'm just a DIY-er)

The wiring has been checked - although I am open to the possibility if it's intermittent it's not shown itself. Unlikely though as every time the error has shown, wiring is the first thing to be checked. If I'm still struggling and I still can't identify the fault, I have a spare loom to fall back on. That'll be a last resort though as the last one was a pain in the arse to fit.

Thanks for the replies though - keep them coming please.

[Ed Mac]

Originally Posted by Clan

yes the sensor and bracket are the same .

Is everything else compatible?

[Clan]

Originally Posted by Ed Mac

Is everything else compatible?

cam position sensor is , but exhaust camshaft different , It would take a long time to check every item !

[Ed Mac]

Originally Posted by Clan

cam position sensor is , but exhaust camshaft different , It would take a long time to check every item !

The exhaust camshaft itself? Would that trip the sensor? Can the exhaust camshaft from the 'new' engine be swapped for the old one?
(Sorry, that's 3 questions in rapid succession!)

I'm now fearing the engines aren't interchangeable - or if they are, several parts need to be replaced. This is potentially a disaster. I'd have been better keeping the old engine in and paying for new valves, head skimming etc. And it would probably would have been cheaper too.

I appreciate your PM re checking if the parts list from 1 supersedes the other - I didn't realise that was a bit of an undertaking. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks again.

[Clan]

Originally Posted by Ed Mac

The exhaust camshaft itself? Would that trip the sensor? Can the exhaust camshaft from the 'new' engine be swapped for the old one?
(Sorry, that's 3 questions in rapid succession!)

I'm now fearing the engines aren't interchangeable - or if they are, several parts need to be replaced. This is potentially a disaster. I'd have been better keeping the old engine in and paying for new valves, head skimming etc. And it would probably would have been cheaper too.

I appreciate your PM re checking if the parts list from 1 supersedes the other - I didn't realise that was a bit of an undertaking. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks again.

yes I would fit your old camshaft , but if it has hit the pistons with the valves beware the lobes can turn on the shaft and mess up the operation , you would never be able to diagnose that .

currently the two engines still have different part numbers .

What exactly is wrong with the head , has it bent the rockers and broken the bores where the hydraulic lifters fit and broken the camshaft bearing caps ? maybe rotated the cam lobes on the shafts ?That is the norm .. It is very rare the block and pistons get damaged .

[Ed Mac]

Originally Posted by Clan

What exactly is wrong with the head , has it bent the rockers and broken the bores where the hydraulic lifters fit and broken the camshaft bearing caps ? maybe rotated the cam lobes on the shafts ?That is the norm .. It is very rare the block and pistons get damaged .

Yes, the head on the old engine defo had broken lifters (on the intake side) - most probably bent valves and would need the head skimmed. I'm not familiar with changing that kind of stuff - so though fitting a 'new' engine would be cheaper as I was confident I could do that myself. I'd have had to pay labour for the original engine to get fixed....and without knowing what the total extent of the damage was, above what I mentioned...on the face of it, that would be more expensive.

I'm at where I'm at now.

If I use the old camshaft in the 'new' engine, does anything else have to change around that, like the lifters etc?

Is there any other significant different parts do you know? (Is there software etc I can buy to check myself ?)