240 V8 Project anyone?

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Othen

Only £3999 now; form an orderly queue...

:-)

A mere £3,750 now - another 2 years at this rate of decline should see it down to what it is worth:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-240...-127635-2958-0

[Forg]

Have seen this thread being here for a while but hadn't clicked on any of the links ... wow, a carby Rover V8, that'd be no better than a B23E!!

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by Forg

Have seen this thread being here for a while but hadn't clicked on any of the links ... wow, a carby Rover V8, that'd be no better than a B23E!!

The Rover V8 produces ~160bhp and ~210lbft of torque. The B23E was ~136bhp and 137lbft.

That means the Rover V8 is ~25% more powerful and ~50% more torque plus you get that V8 soundtrack. Much better than a B23E!

[AndrewBrown]

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

The Rover V8 produces ~160bhp and ~210lbft of torque. The B23E was ~136bhp and 137lbft.

That means the Rover V8 is ~25% more powerful and ~50% more torque plus you get that V8 soundtrack. Much better than a B23E!

The rover V8 is probably quite a bit lighter than the B230 too...

OK edit here are the weights approximate depending on years spec etc

Volvo B230 iron block 365 pounds or 166 kg
Rover V8 alloy block 318 pounds or 145 kg
Chevy 350 iron block 575 pounds or 261 kg

that said similar power outputs are possible and comes down to tuning mods but the V8 sound is never coming froim a 4 cylinder motor

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by AndrewBrown

The rover V8 is probably quite a bit lighter than the B230 too

It is a bit, i forget the exact figures but 150kg Vs 200kg for the V8 Vs redblock rings a dim and distant bell. I think the B23 was marginally heavier than the B230 as well so even more of a difference - that's only the weight of a good feed from the Chinese takaway though so not worth taking into account.

[AndrewBrown]

Also that V8 could be a mid 80's range rover motor or and then its only 128 BHP

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by AndrewBrown

Also that V8 could be a mid 80's range rover motor or and then its only 128 BHP

Could be but looks more like a mid 70s 10.5:1 CR P6 engine to me. My line of thought is if you're going to convert to V8 power, you wouldn't go for a less powerful engine than you already have. That said fitting a set of normal P6 or SD1 high (9.8:1) compression heads will restore it to the "full fat" version, even if it was a Rangey lump to start with.

It also has a 4-barrel Holley (usually good for about 30bhp on its own) and a high lift cam of unspecified origins. Should be nudging 200bhp if set up right.

[Othen]

Originally Posted by AndrewBrown

Also that V8 could be a mid 80's range rover motor or and then its only 128 BHP

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

Could be but looks more like a mid 70s 10.5:1 CR P6 engine to me. My line of thought is if you're going to convert to V8 power, you wouldn't go for a less powerful engine than you already have. That said fitting a set of normal P6 or SD1 high (9.8:1) compression heads will restore it to the "full fat" version, even if it was a Rangey lump to start with.

It also has a 4-barrel Holley (usually good for about 30bhp on its own) and a high lift cam of unspecified origins. Should be nudging 200bhp if set up right.

So chaps,
I know nothing of this Rover V8 business - I'm just seeing a shed of a 240 saloon with plenty of rust in the rear wheel arches and doors, and what appears to be non-metallic paint (so it is probably a DL) that has been sitting in the farmer's field since 2009. I'd say its value was £500 - are you two saying that because of the Rover V8 motor it is actually worth £3,750 (or there about)?
Alan

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by Othen

So chaps,
I know nothing of this Rover V8 business - I'm just seeing a shed of a 240 saloon with plenty of rust in the rear wheel arches and doors, and what appears to be non-metallic paint (so it is probably a DL) that has been sitting in the farmer's field since 2009. I'd say its value was £500 - are you two saying that because of the Rover V8 motor it is actually worth £3,750 (or there about)?
Alan

I'd put the value in the £3-500 region Alan, pretty much for the reasons you've described but also the unknown quantity of the V8 conversion. There may still be a lot of work to do (in addition to recommissioning) just to get the conversion to run right and either way, most insurers will want an Engineers Report to confirm it's safe and the brakes etc are capable of stopping the car.

On the other hand, if it was a going concern, looking tidy and on the road with a current MoT and an Engineers Report to prove what the insurers will want then £3750 would possibly be nearer the real value. That said, many people wouldn't want the V8 conversion so it's a bit of a swings and roundabouts situation.
Once upon a time i would have almost killed for that kind of conversion but these days i'd look for a more moern engine than the POB/Rover V8 such as the 1UZ Toyota/Lexus 4.0 V8. I'd also prefer to do the conversion myself so i knew it was done right.

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

I'd put the value in the £3-500 region Alan, pretty much for the reasons you've described but also the unknown quantity of the V8 conversion. There may still be a lot of work to do (in addition to recommissioning) just to get the conversion to run right and either way, most insurers will want an Engineers Report to confirm it's safe and the brakes etc are capable of stopping the car.

On the other hand, if it was a going concern, looking tidy and on the road with a current MoT and an Engineers Report to prove what the insurers will want then £3750 would possibly be nearer the real value. That said, many people wouldn't want the V8 conversion so it's a bit of a swings and roundabouts situation.
Once upon a time i would have almost killed for that kind of conversion but these days i'd look for a more moern engine than the POB/Rover V8 such as the 1UZ Toyota/Lexus 4.0 V8. I'd also prefer to do the conversion myself so i knew it was done right.

Thank you for that explanation Dave. Personally I see no value at all in a conversion like this - the underlying car (which looks poor) would be far more important.

Alan