General: Drivers Information Module (DIM) replacement

[Andy]

Originally Posted by dentman750

just to let you know the millage on the second hand one has 200 miles more than my original one,and im not bothered at all about th other problems as i wont have the car much longer.the speedo works so job done i reakon..you dont happen to work at a syealers by any chane do you???

Personally I think Clan was just trying to help and give you advice.

Glad to hear you don't give a toss about the next owner of your car having a multitude of problems.

Look after number one, hey???????????

[hwoods]

Originally Posted by Andy

Personally I think Clan was just trying to help and give you advice.

Glad to hear you don't give a toss about the next owner of your car having a multitude of problems.

Look after number one, hey???????????

I think this comment should be directed at Volvo and not the owners, if you own a say 2002 s60 with a load of miles what's it worth now? I think it's volvo who don't give a toss or something should be done (it's just the horrid dispensable world we live in - fix it by whatever means or send it to the scrap yard)

[kdst5]

I have to agree that there does seem to be a problem here, who is going to pay for a £1,500 fix on say a car worth £1,000. So you are left with a choice either scrap the car or try to keep it running by what ever means you can think of, even if that only lasts another 12 months.

It is the electrical/computer items which are the problem as there seems to be no alterative but to buy and fit a new module at the dealer. It would be interesting to know how much it costs Volvo to make some of theses items. It is certainly not environmentally friendly to scrap a decent car just because one computer module needs to be replaced.

This can't be doing Volvos reputation any good.

[jajrst]

Originally Posted by kdst5

I have to agree that there does seem to be a problem here, who is going to pay for a £1,500 fix on say a car worth £1,000. So you are left with a choice either scrap the car or try to keep it running by what ever means you can think of, even if that only lasts another 12 months.

It is the electrical/computer items which are the problem as there seems to be no alterative but to buy and fit a new module at the dealer. It would be interesting to know how much it costs Volvo to make some of theses items. It is certainly not environmentally friendly to scrap a decent car just because one computer module needs to be replaced.

This can't be doing Volvos reputation any good.

This irratates me too, I mean at the factory I'm sure they can recode a module to work on any car like when they're initially shipped out, there should be some kind of service they could provide to us so we can send off a module at least to be re-coded. It's only a software setting held in, I'm guessing the CEM of the car that restricts "foreign" serial numbers or something like that. Obviously it can be edited or a new part could never be fitted, so that leaves some code in the module that's restricting it being installed in another car. I really don't see the point (other than monopolising), who's going to break into a car, steal the DIM or something and leave, you would steal the car thus making it pointless to code the modules to that car!!

[oilburner]

I'm not sure I agree with that, I'm sure I heard about gangs stealing cars and then breaking them up and shifting the parts individually. Dodgy scrapyards were the most common outlet.

So, as much as it is a pain in the neck to have all the electronics coded in, if it cuts down on the number of thefts then it really is a good thing. However, where it is possible to re-code at the dealers (and it sometimes is), it should be offered for reasonable prices.

[jajrst]

Originally Posted by oilburner

I'm not sure I agree with that, I'm sure I heard about gangs stealing cars and then breaking them up and shifting the parts individually. Dodgy scrapyards were the most common outlet.

So, as much as it is a pain in the neck to have all the electronics coded in, if it cuts down on the number of thefts then it really is a good thing. However, where it is possible to re-code at the dealers (and it sometimes is), it should be offered for reasonable prices.

I guess your right oilburner lol. I just wish they would recode the parts for you, I've never heard of them recoding any parts at any price . The more expensive parts like the DIM, SRS module, CEM, ECM etc etc should definatley be able to be recoded, I agree that some sort of checks should be in place to make sure it's not a dodgy part but Saab can "re-marry" parts so I can't see why Volvo can't :S Saying that, I would still buy Volvo over Saab lol.

[dentman750]

Originally Posted by Andy

Personally I think Clan was just trying to help and give you advice.

Glad to hear you don't give a toss about the next owner of your car having a multitude of problems.

Look after number one, hey???????????

yeah dead right pal!! just like the person who i got the car off cared about me..not!! the car is working fine,the dim is working fine so job done i say..can i ask you a question?? if you had a problem with your dim and you took it to a stealer and they told you it was guna cost £850 plus and you found a company that could do it for £170 wich option would you choose??bearing in mind i payed only £2000 for the car! yep thought so,youd choose the later option..well that is if your not completly stupid or got money to burn..so before you start getting on your high horse about morals of "wot about the next person that buys it" just have a think!! anyone in there right mind would do wot i would did!!????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

[BIG AL]

Th.is is the second dim i have had to get thats gone wrong so i got in touch with volvo coventry told themthat there is a design fault and that with the heater matrix being at the back of the dash that with the hot and cold tempratures it was causing cracks in the curcuit board, this was comfirmed by a auto electrician before i called volvo, they told me that the have never had any issues with the dims and i was the only one to enquire (yeah right)they told me to take my s60 to a dealer at my expence to have it checked out and report back to them .

P.S. Has anyone else called volvo about there dim problems??

[dentman750]

Originally Posted by BIG AL

Th.is is the second dim i have had to get thats gone wrong so i got in touch with volvo coventry told themthat there is a design fault and that with the heater matrix being at the back of the dash that with the hot and cold tempratures it was causing cracks in the curcuit board, this was comfirmed by a auto electrician before i called volvo, they told me that the have never had any issues with the dims and i was the only one to enquire (yeah right)they told me to take my s60 to a dealer at my expence to have it checked out and report back to them .

P.S. Has anyone else called volvo about there dim problems??

i took mine to a volvo stealer and was told it would £750+ to replace the DIM and that no way could fit second hand..lests just say there was no way i was parting with £750!! did a bit of reserch and found a company in preston called NEW CITY VOLVO SPARES.£170 he charged me all in!! he tried 4 clocks till he found one with the same software as mine and job done,the millage is a couple of hundred miles out but who cares,youl prob get some no it all saying you cant fit a second hand one but trust me,you can!! and who cares wot volvo say when you take it to them with any other prob you get..it comes down to been realistic about things..who in there right mind is guna pay anything upto a £1000 to replace the DIM when the car is maybe only worth a couple of grand?? come on volvo sort it out!!!!!! p.s and NEW CITY VOLVO SPARES will give you a 6 month warrenty with the second hand dim!.

[BIG AL]

Originally Posted by dentman750

i took mine to a volvo stealer and was told it would £750+ to replace the dim and that no way could fit second hand..lests just say there was no way i was parting with £750!! Did a bit of reserch and found a company in preston called new city volvo spares.£170 he charged me all in!! He tried 4 clocks till he found one with the same software as mine and job done,the millage is a couple of hundred miles out but who cares,youl prob get some no it all saying you cant fit a second hand one but trust me,you can!! And who cares wot volvo say when you take it to them with any other prob you get..it comes down to been realistic about things..who in there right mind is guna pay anything upto a £1000 to replace the dim when the car is maybe only worth a couple of grand?? Come on volvo sort it out!!!!!! P.s and new city volvo spares will give you a 6 month warrenty with the second hand dim!.

what needs to be done is for more people to complain to volvo then they may see that there is a design fault, this may make them stand up and help us as volvos are good but expensive to buy and you don't expect to be forking out after a few years especially at these prices .eh !