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Old Oct 22nd, 2018, 20:06   #1
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Anyone know if the S40/P1 cars are electronically limited to 149mph?

I'm trying to work out why the 217bhp 2.5T Mondeo has a listed as having a top speed of 150mph, whereas my slightly lighter 227bhp S40 T5 is listed as 149mph.

Also, the newer V40 T5 geartronic (254bhp) is also listed as 149mph top speed.

Appreciate these cars are low pressure turbos, but you'd think 254bhp would be enough for 155mph.

Do stage 1 remaps hit that speed?
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Old Oct 22nd, 2018, 22:59   #2
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Must be as the older 240bhp T5's like my lot are electronically limited to 155 mph.

You would need to request a top speed de-limit at the time of the remap as a normal remap would not include a de-limit.
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Anyone know if the S40/P1 cars are electronically limited to 149mph?

Do stage 1 remaps hit that speed?
Yep, even with VIDA readout it says "Speed limitation 250 km/h" when pulling out car info with it.

its 155mhp though, not 149.

TBH I dont think it would go that much more even with S1...

BTW Mondeo ST uses 3.0 V6 to my knowledge, I think it pulls a bit differently than our 5pot LPT
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Yep, even with VIDA readout it says "Speed limitation 250 km/h" when pulling out car info with it.

its 155mhp though, not 149.

TBH I dont think it would go that much more even with S1...

BTW Mondeo ST uses 3.0 V6 to my knowledge, I think it pulls a bit differently than our 5pot LPT
I guess the small turbo kills the top end pull of these cars compared to the S60 T5, though I did wonder why the top speed is listed as slightly higher in the Fords.

Re the mondeo, the later Mk4 version (they didn't make an ST) has Volvos 2.5 T engine in 217bhp form. As does the S-Max and the Kuga (although that get the 197bhp version, same as the S80).
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Re the mondeo, the later Mk4 version (they didn't make an ST) has Volvos 2.5 T engine in 217bhp form. As does the S-Max and the Kuga.
Ah this one, maybe, I was referring to "true" ST220, all other ones are impostors :P

on a sidenote - I would like to hear someone confirming our T5 hitting that 250limiter on Autobahn or something, I wonder if it feels like it could go a bit higher o is it really the restriction "as per manufacturer's agreement". I get that M3 is restricted etc, but T5? seem like overkill
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Anyone know if the S40/P1 cars are electronically limited to 149mph?

I'm trying to work out why the 217bhp 2.5T Mondeo has a listed as having a top speed of 150mph, whereas my slightly lighter 227bhp S40 T5 is listed as 149mph.

Also, the newer V40 T5 geartronic (254bhp) is also listed as 149mph top speed.

Appreciate these cars are low pressure turbos, but you'd think 254bhp would be enough for 155mph.

Do stage 1 remaps hit that speed?
Don't forget the at those speeds air resistance is massive , It starts to get huge over 80 mph small differences in drag make a big difference in top speed .
that's why a 1000 bhp formula 1 car with 600 kg of weight can "only" do just over 200 mph, If you took the wings off , probably 300+ mph but it would not be stable of course .
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Don't forget the at those speeds air resistance is massive , It starts to get huge over 80 mph small differences in drag make a big difference in top speed ....
Are you suggesting our P1's are fat comparing to "sleek Mondeo ST" ?
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Are you suggesting our P1's are fat comparing to "sleek Mondeo ST" ?
Probably ! fold the door mirrors in and see what it will do :-)
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Hit 155 on the auto bahn swiftly with a full car and could probably go up a bit more, but too fast for me so took my foot off.
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Hit 155 on the auto bahn swiftly with a full car and could probably go up a bit more, but too fast for me so took my foot off.
Oh, I obviously underestimated mapped T5... silly me :P
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