Other XC90 Problem: - XC90 D5 Geartronic - Hesitation/delay in pulling away... - Page 12

PlankWithANailIn · Jul 15th, 2009, 21:36

I only see the delay if I floor my xc90, if I just slowly depress the pedal I get a smooth take off. To be honest the thing is not a race car so why would I shove it into a gap so small I would have to accelerate like a mad man to get into?

In gear umphhh is great!

4wheeldriver · Jul 20th, 2009, 12:14

Following a lengthy conversation with the head of the Vehicle Safety Branch this morning they feel that even though they witnessed 1 of my major safety issues they feel that there is no real danger with the hesitation on the xc90. Volvo have explained that they have not seen any real problems of this nature and are not planning to look into the matter any further. Ah the joys...........

GSMGuy · Jul 20th, 2009, 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4wheeldriver

Following a lengthy conversation with the head of the Vehicle Safety Branch this morning they feel that even though they witnessed 1 of my major safety issues they feel that there is no real danger with the hesitation on the xc90. Volvo have explained that they have not seen any real problems of this nature and are not planning to look into the matter any further. Ah the joys...........

Joke....

Wonder if, as a result of an accident - we could be accused by our insurers' of driving a vehicle with known faults.....

Mike

4wheeldriver · Jul 20th, 2009, 22:40

I mentioned the possibilty of someone dying through this eventually and I get the feeling that asses are covered there and would be down to VCUK.........

artwilliam · Jul 30th, 2009, 13:01

Hi all - not sure if any of you have read the new XF jag diesel review by Clarkson???

He makes a very interesting point about delayed pulling away...

"There is just one tiny problem, and, weirdly, it affects the Range Rover diesel too. When you pull away from a standstill, it feels like the throttle cable has snapped. So you give the pedal a hefty shove, which means that you lunge onto the roundabout at the precise moment you decide the gap’s not big enough. Apparently, this is a software problem that can be cured. I wish it would be. "

The complete article can be read here:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/dri...cle6725766.ece

Funnily enough he also mentions how bad the diesel engine is in the XC90!!! I suppose compared to the 3.0 bmw and audi it is!!!

AB-UK · Jul 30th, 2009, 18:20

"...you lunge onto the roundabout at the precise moment you decide the gap’s not big enough."

This is precisely the feeling we experience - the only reason a fatal accident hasn't been reported is that we XC90 drivers learn VERY quickly not to do it again.
The point is - we shouldn't have to take such action to counteract this fault.

alexreeves · Jul 31st, 2009, 14:41

My wifes 55 plate XC90 D5 SE had this exact problem - I used to loathe driving it because of the lag, and the general high revs you'd get on the motorway.

We recently returned that car at the end of the 3 year PCP and I was actually against buying another XC90 for this, and a couple of other reasons (mostly electrical problems). However, my wife tried a few other 7 seat SUVs (Audi Q7 / LR Discovery3) but still preferred the XC90.

Reluctantly, last week I bought her a MY08 XC90 D5 Exec and took it out for a test drive and was actually pretty impressed. The lag has all but disappeared, it now being no worse than on my 53 plate S60 D5 (i.e. virtually none existent). Also, revs are a lot lower on the motorway - probably due to the addition of the 6th gear on the Geartronic box.

I'm guessing that the lag on the earlier cars was due to the lower engine power (163BHP v's 185BHP) and that Volvo have addressed the problem in the newer models with this power increase. If that's the case then probably not much can be done to improve the earlier engines other than a bit of performance tuning perhaps?

And yes, you did read correctly - my wife has an '08 XC90 Exec and I have an '03 S60. Anything for a quiet life ;-)

artwilliam · Jul 31st, 2009, 14:55

I don't think it's to do with the power output as I have a 53 plate D5 with the 163 engine and I have no hesitation at pull away at all.

In fact I'd say it pulls away fairly quickly for 2 ton diesel 4x4!

AB-UK · Aug 1st, 2009, 20:31

Artwilliam,
Geartronic or manual?

artwilliam · Aug 2nd, 2009, 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by AB-UK

Artwilliam,
Geartronic or manual?

Mines a Geartronic

Jul 20th, 2009, 12:14	#112
4wheeldriver Master Member Last Online: Jan 20th, 2013 20:28 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Aberdeen	Following a lengthy conversation with the head of the Vehicle Safety Branch this morning they feel that even though they witnessed 1 of my major safety issues they feel that there is no real danger with the hesitation on the xc90. Volvo have explained that they have not seen any real problems of this nature and are not planning to look into the matter any further. Ah the joys........... __________________ BMW X5 3.0sd SE with more extras than the cast of Ben Hur!!!! Mini Cooper Worx

Jul 20th, 2009, 22:40	#114
4wheeldriver Master Member Last Online: Jan 20th, 2013 20:28 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Aberdeen	I mentioned the possibilty of someone dying through this eventually and I get the feeling that asses are covered there and would be down to VCUK......... __________________ BMW X5 3.0sd SE with more extras than the cast of Ben Hur!!!! Mini Cooper Worx

Jul 30th, 2009, 13:01	#115
artwilliam Member Last Online: Feb 17th, 2012 21:50 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: york	Hi all - not sure if any of you have read the new XF jag diesel review by Clarkson??? He makes a very interesting point about delayed pulling away... "There is just one tiny problem, and, weirdly, it affects the Range Rover diesel too. When you pull away from a standstill, it feels like the throttle cable has snapped. So you give the pedal a hefty shove, which means that you lunge onto the roundabout at the precise moment you decide the gap’s not big enough. Apparently, this is a software problem that can be cured. I wish it would be. " The complete article can be read here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/dri...cle6725766.ece Funnily enough he also mentions how bad the diesel engine is in the XC90!!! I suppose compared to the 3.0 bmw and audi it is!!! Last edited by artwilliam; Jul 30th, 2009 at 13:04.

Jul 15th, 2009, 21:36	#111
PlankWithANailIn New Member Last Online: Jan 3rd, 2010 11:10 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Orpington	I only see the delay if I floor my xc90, if I just slowly depress the pedal I get a smooth take off. To be honest the thing is not a race car so why would I shove it into a gap so small I would have to accelerate like a mad man to get into? In gear umphhh is great!

Jul 30th, 2009, 18:20	#116
AB-UK Premier Member Last Online: Today 07:29 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nottingham	"...you lunge onto the roundabout at the precise moment you decide the gap’s not big enough." This is precisely the feeling we experience - the only reason a fatal accident hasn't been reported is that we XC90 drivers learn VERY quickly not to do it again. The point is - we shouldn't have to take such action to counteract this fault.

Jul 31st, 2009, 14:41	#117
alexreeves New Member Last Online: Dec 31st, 2022 22:47 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Manchester	My wifes 55 plate XC90 D5 SE had this exact problem - I used to loathe driving it because of the lag, and the general high revs you'd get on the motorway. We recently returned that car at the end of the 3 year PCP and I was actually against buying another XC90 for this, and a couple of other reasons (mostly electrical problems). However, my wife tried a few other 7 seat SUVs (Audi Q7 / LR Discovery3) but still preferred the XC90. Reluctantly, last week I bought her a MY08 XC90 D5 Exec and took it out for a test drive and was actually pretty impressed. The lag has all but disappeared, it now being no worse than on my 53 plate S60 D5 (i.e. virtually none existent). Also, revs are a lot lower on the motorway - probably due to the addition of the 6th gear on the Geartronic box. I'm guessing that the lag on the earlier cars was due to the lower engine power (163BHP v's 185BHP) and that Volvo have addressed the problem in the newer models with this power increase. If that's the case then probably not much can be done to improve the earlier engines other than a bit of performance tuning perhaps? And yes, you did read correctly - my wife has an '08 XC90 Exec and I have an '03 S60. Anything for a quiet life ;-)

Jul 31st, 2009, 14:55	#118
artwilliam Member Last Online: Feb 17th, 2012 21:50 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: york	I don't think it's to do with the power output as I have a 53 plate D5 with the 163 engine and I have no hesitation at pull away at all. In fact I'd say it pulls away fairly quickly for 2 ton diesel 4x4!

Aug 1st, 2009, 20:31	#119
AB-UK Premier Member Last Online: Today 07:29 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nottingham	Artwilliam, Geartronic or manual?

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