LPG Ireland

[classicswede]

The UK only uses the Bayonet filler

Inside the bayonet filler there is a 21.8mm thread that you can screw in a Acme, Italian claw or Spainish adaptor into.

It sounds like you have one of the old square filler points fitted?

[Clifford Pope]

Yes, I see it now. Without looking closely I hadn't noticed the threads on the inside of the connection - I just assumed that as it takes a bayonet pump it would need a bayonet adaptor.

The notice at the garage I go to says fit the adaptor to the car first. But the link to the Acme adaptor says screw the adaptor to the pump, implying that you then attach to car.
I don't see how both ends can be screwed, and you couldn't twist the supply hose more than about 1/4 turn. Or is it a rotating end fitting on Irish pumps?

[Calahonda52]

Interesting that the bayonet adaptor I have is threaded as described by Classic, where as the one in the link http://www.mylpg.eu/adapters is not.
The only fill I got here in Dublin so far was at an attended LPG outlet and to be honest I didn't look what he used, when I called him he said he had all the adaptors so I don't know what he screwed in: he did root through a box of adaptors.

When I filled at the Shell outlet in Reading there was some notice on pump about adaptors, will look again next month.

[Clifford Pope]

Originally Posted by Calahonda52

Interesting that the bayonet adaptor I have is threaded as described by Classic, where as the one in the link http://www.mylpg.eu/adapters is not.

Quote from the link:

"ACME adapter
This adapter has a threaded fitting onto which the petrol pump is screwed before the trigger is pulled to establish a seal before fuel transfer."

I read that to mean screw the pump to the adaptor first, but perhaps it doesn't mean that. The Autogas website says always screw the adaptor to the car first.

I'm still unclear as to
1) which adaptor do I need ?
2) how do I connect it?

[Calahonda52]

I can only speak from the experience of filling 3 times in UK using the bayonet adaptor.
I always screwed the bayonet adaptor into the threaded flange on car and then fitted the gas pump. Its about a half turn but is a bit of a pain as the lugs get caught in the mechanism inside the head of the gas pump
The the quote from the website, I trust they meant gas pump and not petrol pump..
"This adapter has a threaded fitting onto which the petrol pump is screwed before the trigger is pulled to establish a seal before fuel transfer"

[classicswede]

Always fit the adaptor to the car first.

This is the one you need
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Autogas-LP...item338d6e90c9

[Calahonda52]

Even more interesting is this quote from the autogas uk web site.
"Persistent use of LPG filler adapters is not recommended in the interest of personal safety"

"Autogas 2000 recommend that the appropriate filler for your country of residence be fitted"

Is this a marketing ploy or what is the personal safety issue?
Can the old square filler plate fitted on the lower wing be up graded?

[classicswede]

Yes you can change the filler to the fixed version if you wish to.

The square filler is a removeable type filler and is allowed but ideally you want a fixed filler if possible

What you can not do is fit the Italian filler and then adapt to a bayonet

[Clifford Pope]

I've bought the right connector now - thanks for the advice.
Final question - is fitting it hand-tight sufficient, or does it need a wrench or something? I imagine there might be big problems if the adaptor stayed on the pump after releasing, or worse perhaps if it loosened on each so that niether would release.

The distance across the two flats would need a very big wrench, for which there isn't space anyway in the recess. Perhaps some kind of home-made two-prong tool?

[classicswede]

Hand tight should be enough but if you are using it often keeping a pair of pipe grips that will fit it can come in handy