Grrr, car let me down for the first time 😢

reggit · Jun 23rd, 2019, 15:46

Parked at a friends for 2 hours after a good run and nothing from the starter when we come to leave (car is manual).

What I have noticed whilst waiting for a jump start is that the air on compressor keeps engaging with the engine off, looks like the sensor at the top left of the engine, temperature sensor at a guess. Guess that’s a clue!

Time will tell when I get it home. Battery is only 2 or 3 months old and a good make so unlikely to have suddenly failed.

Spike56 · Jun 23rd, 2019, 16:00

Check the battery terminals are clean and tight!

reggit · Jun 23rd, 2019, 16:06

The +ve is, can’t get to -ve as I’ve no tools with me to release the battery cover.

Simmy · Jun 23rd, 2019, 16:45

check the small signal wire on the starter motor these are prone to corosion causeing a non start situation

reggit · Jun 23rd, 2019, 16:47

Spotted the problem, can’t fix it at the side of the road. RAC get paid a lot each year so they can take the car home.

Engine earth strap has broken.

reggit · Jun 23rd, 2019, 18:15

Well RAC said 4 hours for someone to have a look!

Bodgery got it going, 2 jumpleads to split the current and bypass the broken strap.

Now to find a replacement strap.

reggit · Jun 26th, 2019, 10:35

New heavy duty strap from ebay fitted, it's never spun over so quickly, and on a low battery. I drove it home without the strap connected, therefore no to very little charge reaching the battery - the low battery warning was on when I got it home.

Looking at the broken end of the old strap, there are only half a dozen strands of the cable that had been connected at the end. Winder if I condemned the old battery a little early...….

Anyway I can live with a £15 repair every so often, but I'll be looking for a new recovery company next year!

Brendan W · Jun 26th, 2019, 16:13

Mine broke at the lug under the starter motor about a year ago. The old lug is reworkable and the cable got shortened by about 25mm. Plenty of slack in it. I thing the vibrations from the diesel in particular just fatigued the strands. There was no sign of corrosion as such.

Zebster · Jun 26th, 2019, 16:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by reggit

...I'll be looking for a new recovery company next year!

I recommend Autoaid.

Jun 23rd, 2019, 15:46	#1
reggit Premier Member Last Online: Today 07:56 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Preston	Grrr, car let me down for the first time 😢 Parked at a friends for 2 hours after a good run and nothing from the starter when we come to leave (car is manual). What I have noticed whilst waiting for a jump start is that the air on compressor keeps engaging with the engine off, looks like the sensor at the top left of the engine, temperature sensor at a guess. Guess that’s a clue! Time will tell when I get it home. Battery is only 2 or 3 months old and a good make so unlikely to have suddenly failed. __________________ 2009 Volvo V70 D5 (Polestar 225bhp) r-design 180,000 miles

Jun 23rd, 2019, 16:06	#3
reggit Premier Member Last Online: Today 07:56 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Preston	The +ve is, can’t get to -ve as I’ve no tools with me to release the battery cover. __________________ 2009 Volvo V70 D5 (Polestar 225bhp) r-design 180,000 miles

Jun 23rd, 2019, 16:47	#5
reggit Premier Member Last Online: Today 07:56 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Preston	Spotted the problem, can’t fix it at the side of the road. RAC get paid a lot each year so they can take the car home. Engine earth strap has broken. __________________ 2009 Volvo V70 D5 (Polestar 225bhp) r-design 180,000 miles

Jun 23rd, 2019, 18:15	#6
reggit Premier Member Last Online: Today 07:56 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Preston	Well RAC said 4 hours for someone to have a look! Bodgery got it going, 2 jumpleads to split the current and bypass the broken strap. Now to find a replacement strap. __________________ 2009 Volvo V70 D5 (Polestar 225bhp) r-design 180,000 miles

Jun 26th, 2019, 10:35	#7
reggit Premier Member Last Online: Today 07:56 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Preston	New heavy duty strap from ebay fitted, it's never spun over so quickly, and on a low battery. I drove it home without the strap connected, therefore no to very little charge reaching the battery - the low battery warning was on when I got it home. Looking at the broken end of the old strap, there are only half a dozen strands of the cable that had been connected at the end. Winder if I condemned the old battery a little early...…. Anyway I can live with a £15 repair every so often, but I'll be looking for a new recovery company next year! __________________ 2009 Volvo V70 D5 (Polestar 225bhp) r-design 180,000 miles Last edited by reggit; Jun 26th, 2019 at 10:39.

Jun 23rd, 2019, 16:00	#2
Spike56 Master Member Last Online: Today 00:44 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Orpington	Check the battery terminals are clean and tight!

Jun 23rd, 2019, 16:45	#4
Simmy Premier Member Last Online: Today 21:17 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Manchester	check the small signal wire on the starter motor these are prone to corosion causeing a non start situation

Jun 26th, 2019, 16:13	#8
Brendan W Premier Member Last Online: Apr 2nd, 2024 19:50 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wexford	Mine broke at the lug under the starter motor about a year ago. The old lug is reworkable and the cable got shortened by about 25mm. Plenty of slack in it. I thing the vibrations from the diesel in particular just fatigued the strands. There was no sign of corrosion as such.

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