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Apr 6th, 2011, 22:49 | #61 |
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'Roger',
Many thanks for your spreadsheet. One puzzle: According to your spread sheet, for my ZF HP22 with 3.91 diff, engine rpm@70 is 1000x2.688559=2688rpm. However @70mph my tacho says eng speed=3000rpm. Your tyre circ is correct for my 195/65R15 and my speedo is spot on according to my satnav. |
Apr 6th, 2011, 23:00 | #62 | |
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740 GL estate manual gearbox 2.3i cat version introduced in 1982 and restricted to US and Canada is 3:31 200 series: 240 DL estate 2.3i cat manual gearbox version introduced in 1974 and restricted to US and Canada is 3:31
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Apr 6th, 2011, 23:05 | #63 |
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Hmm?
Yes, I agree that the empirical data may raise questions.
Are you sure that you have a 3.91, not a 4.10? Are you sure your rev counter is accurate? How new are your tyres (wear reduces diameter)? Am I right that the HP22 is the lockup box? Is it locking up? In short, I don't know! Some of my spreadsheet data seems to reflect the owenrs manuals, some not. |
Apr 7th, 2011, 00:59 | #64 |
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There are many variables involved with tyre sizes, not all cars came with 195/65x15" tyres. My Estate had 185/65x15" on it but could have had either. The small difference in diameter will affect things.
Out of interest I will check what revs my car is doing in the gears before and after I swap the axle and I might find out what M90 gearbox I now have. |
Apr 7th, 2011, 11:49 | #65 | |
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Are you sure your rev counter is accurate? : I imagine it's one of the more accuate instruments, but no I've not checked it so it could be out. How new are your tyres (wear reduces diameter)? : Yes my 195/65R15 tyres are half worn, so dia could be less by say 10mm, which would increase engine revs by (10xPI/1993)x2689=42rpm, which is still ~270rpm less than my tacho reading. Am I right that the HP22 is the lockup box? Is it locking up? : Yes pretty sure it's locking up - I feel a slight jerk at 50mph. In short, I don't know! Some of my spreadsheet data seems to reflect the owners manuals, some not. Perhaps some other owners can check engine revs @70mph to verify your tables? Last edited by RealEstate; Apr 7th, 2011 at 11:56. |
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Apr 7th, 2011, 12:09 | #66 |
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I have a D24TIC with 3.73 and ZF HP22 - I can check if it's any help to you?
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Apr 7th, 2011, 12:17 | #67 | |
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Yes that would be interesting. If you have 195/65R15 tyres, according to Roger's tables, your engine should be doing 2565rpm@70mph. If you have different size tyres, we can make the necessary correction, which will prob be fairly small. Many thanks, |
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Apr 7th, 2011, 20:33 | #68 |
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OK, drove the car up on a ramp, crawled under it. What sticker? Blowed if I can see it.
I've got a late 940 CD. Previous owner said it was LSD. But can't tell. Apparently the raising-on-jacks-turning-one-wheel-while-seeing-what-the-other-wheel-does test isn't reliable. I'm assuming locker. Any other way of identifying diff apart from the sticker that I can't see? |
Apr 7th, 2011, 21:44 | #69 |
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Good of you to have a look at least. It sounds like Volvo wern't too careful about putting the stickers on and then sprayed underbody wax on the top to make sure they can't be found. I took me a while to find the ones on my car as the wax was quite thick.
Short of removing the rear cover I don't think there is any way of identifying what axles is what by looking. Various ways of spinning the wheel to activate the lock but i haven't tried it. I did find a way to test the locking diffs were working on Vadis using a torque wrench. It said to jack up one side so one wheel was on the floor the other not and the handbrake off and it out of gear. The torque would then have to be in a specified range. If your car is a B230FT I would think it's got a 3.54 diff. Vadis doesn't show any Proper LSD's in the listings for any 940's as far as I can see, only the low speed locking type. Thats not to say that they weren't a special order option or I just haven't found them though. |
Apr 7th, 2011, 22:58 | #70 |
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When I found my axle sticker it was under a layer of underseal and needed careful cleaning with white spirit to make it readable.
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