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Apr 20th, 2018, 11:33 | #11 |
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I feel awkward by continually asking questions, but I have to, does anyone here have the T6 petrol version?
I never really thought about it due to the fact there were a lot more diesels on the market, but given that we probably wouldn't get the efficiency out of a diesel very oftemight make more sense to go for the petrol version (of which a few second hand models have cropped up at a reasonable price).. just wondering if they're a decent engine generally? Wife and I test drove a very nice XC90 earlier in the week, it was a lovely drive and a very easy drive, but then if need be I can drive anything, the wife is the one that isn't as relaxed on roads... She found it really nice to drive, I think her only panic about it was that it was straight off a dealers forecourt with a £16k price tag on it hahah, so she didn't want to do anything to it! |
Apr 20th, 2018, 11:49 | #12 |
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(should have done this before hand)
I did a quick scout online and saw that there were quite a few d5 v t6 questions on this forum, s99% side with the D5 over the T6, I've seen quotes like 3% more fuel economy Vs 1% more expensive fuel... - I'll need to double check current prices and see if that's still the case... |
Apr 20th, 2018, 12:47 | #13 |
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It's not the T6 engine that is the problem - it is the transmission which is made of fudge and will almost certainly fail suddenly at 80-100k.
My understanding is that the transmission used was the only one that would physically fit and is right at its torque limit with the T6 engine.
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Apr 20th, 2018, 13:15 | #14 | |
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Absolutely! That said, the 2.5T petrol models can quite often be picked up cheaper than a diesel equivalent and that engine / gearbox combination is a far superior option to a T6 which I would dismiss out of hand.
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Apr 20th, 2018, 13:35 | #15 |
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Ah yes, I did see a 2.5 petrol for sale somewhere (autotrader maybe?) I wasn't sure on a 2.5 purely because it's going to have less guts than a 2.9 petrol, and it also wouldn't 'compete' well with the D5...
I've got a 1.6 TDCI focus and I've already been on the wrong end of that smaller engine Vs economy Vs weight of the vehicle sort of argument... So really recommendations are to avoid the T6 unless one wants to fork out for a new gearbox? (I did look at X5's in the past and read that those are an instant ticking gearbox timebomb - plus hardly any came with those optional extra indicators) |
Apr 20th, 2018, 13:56 | #16 |
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I have a D5 185bhp XC90 and wanted diesel for the torque when towing.
That said, I have driven a 2.5T Xc90 and with 210bhp and 320 nm of torque I certainly did not find it gutless although obviously it will do less mpg than a D5. This of course can be balanced against the fact that you would pay less for a petrol model anyway and if you got a manual the mpg will be substantially better. I actually found the 2.5T a very nice car to drive and the engine suited the car well.
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Apr 20th, 2018, 14:09 | #17 |
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Hmm, I suppose the only hold up would be the apparent rarity of a 2.5..
Do D5's have DPF's in earlier models? I assume EGR's too? |
Apr 20th, 2018, 14:22 | #18 | |
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The Euro 3 D5 engine was 163bhp and 340nm of torque with NO DPF but still with EGR and identified by Black Engine cover. This ran up to sometime in 2005. The Euro 4 D5 engine replaced the Euro 3 in 2005 and was 185bhp with 400nm of torque . It came with DPF and EGR. Identified by Grey Engine cover.
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Apr 20th, 2018, 14:55 | #19 |
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I have both the 163 and 185 engines (in a V70 and a XC90) on 257k and 165k miles respectively. I've owned the V70 for 11 years (since 120k miles) and the XC for 5 years (since 125k miles).
The only real issue i've had with the 163 engine is to replace the core plug that usually fails on these. I changed the flywheel and clutch when it started getting rattly, but I think it's fair to say that all engines with DMFs need them eventually. It currently has a turbo boost issue when booted - usually the turbo governor that i'll change tomorrow. I get around 45MPG from this all the time (but the V70 weighs a lot less than a XC, and only 2WD). The 185 has not had any turbo issues but has needed the swirl flaps changing (parts alone were about £450 IIRC) and will need the flywheel & clutch changing soon. I only average about 28MPG from it (6-speed manual) but it does a lot of short journeys with my lead-foot wife and I use it for towing a large caravan mostly. Note that the manual D5 version falls into the lower road tax bracket than the auto, as well as being slightly more efficient. The best performance is from the rare V8 version, which I keep looking for, but they are auto only, £535 road tax and only do about 18MPG!! |
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As for a V8, as wonderful as that.would be, I'm definitely not up for £500+ tax a year... When I went to the dealers earlier he asked me whether I was interested in a Discovery4 that he had on the lot, I said "not at over £500 a year tax!" Plus couple that all with the fact I'm looking at spending less than 5k, last thing I want is to end up paying the cars value in tax in a few years!......as much as I'd love as safe as a V8.. I have a squint at the ML's, the wife was having none of an ML500 AMG -_- she doesn't know much about cars, but knows enough about engine sizes and their relation to fuel economy! |
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