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Would you pay £20,000 for a killer car?!

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Old Dec 23rd, 2012, 12:05   #21
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If it affects more than a few cars, then it is a design fault and should have been discovered during any half decent testing by any engineer worth their salt; simple.

I must be the only one who has noticed more Volvo recalls, particularly fire-related ones, since Ford had a hand in the marque. If you don't believe me, spend two minutes of your valuable time looking at the VOSA website.

As for the title of the thread, it was a bit of fun to attract attention, and wasn't to be taken too seriously; I don't read the Daily Mail or any other trashy newspapers, thank you.

Yes, I am well aware that drivers are bigger killers than their cars - I have to pick up the pieces and break the bad news all too often, thank you.

No, I wouldn't (and am unlikely to be able to) spend £20,000 on any car either, but plenty on here do buy high-end V70 and XC models, and why shouldn't they? It's their money, and they've a right to believe that spending that amount of money on a brand new car entitles them to be a little safer, and certainly no less safe than they would have been in a 20 year old car.

I posted the link for a bit of interest, and added a couple of my own opinions; that is all. I'll stick to the technical section in future.
How about the possibility of it being a manufacturing fault? I also doubt this is down to one poor engineer.

Modern cars are getting safer; better designs, stronger materials, better testing with higher pass criteria. The driver of a new modern safe car has a better chance of survival than a car made 20 years ago. And it's thanks to engineers I'm afraid and the innovations they bring to the automotive industry.
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Old Dec 23rd, 2012, 13:37   #22
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catching fire is more or less as awful as can be, but does anyone remeber the original A class Mercedes?

had a habit of rolling over in a sudden lane change?

though i may be a disillusioned, macabre fool, i still laugh
This was fixed with electronic gizmos though, and I do believe prior to it going on sale.

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My Volvo thousands of little fires every minute , fortunately well contained!
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How about the possibility of it being a manufacturing fault? I also doubt this is down to one poor engineer.

Modern cars are getting safer; better designs, stronger materials, better testing with higher pass criteria. The driver of a new modern safe car has a better chance of survival than a car made 20 years ago. And it's thanks to engineers I'm afraid and the innovations they bring to the automotive industry.
Some modern cars "are getting safer; better designs, stronger materials, better testing with higher pass criteria" eg 80s Fords vs current Fords, but not at the middling-to-premium end of the market.
The Germans, the Japanese and Volvo have all lowered their quality standards over the last ten or so years.
Just ask the XC60 owners with failing windscreen wipers and electric windows, and then ask them if they were able to locate and open the relevant fusebox...
Also, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, Volvo has had many more recalls, particularly fire-related ones, since Ford had a hand in the marque - just have a look at the VOSA website.
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