Thinking about a DrivE model....!?

[S70 B5254T]

I think the figure of 45mpg was quoted from an automatic doing mixed driving. Over a good number of miles, as the OP is covering, you'd be unlucky to get less than 50-55mpg from a 1.6D manual, unless you're caning it.

[keithjeb]

My average on the commute in a c30 d2 is about 48 (15 miles of m60 car park), 57 on motorway runs. Probably not worth changing specially from a d5,if I were you I'd be looking into a d3, stop start saves little petrol, and will be much more drive able in an s60 than the d2/1.6d

[volvorocks]

Originally Posted by keithjeb

,if I were you I'd be looking into a d3, stop start saves little petrol, and will be much more drive able in an s60 than the d2/1.6d

The s60 D2 is a fine machine and drives nicely as a manual. Fine round town, and torquey on the motorway. It does lack a bit of oomph sometimes, which is where I agree a D3 would be somewhat better. I always switch stop/start off when getting in the vehicle, as its sometimes a nuisance. Get out of a D2 and then into a D5 and the difference is easy to notice. Then again what do we compare things to? I have and have had some pretty quick motors, although I suppose if you get out of them and get on a performance bike, the cars will feel slow..!!!

The s60 though in D2 form is adequate, unless you require huge performance. The D3 is a step up and a bit better I suppose, although never driven one.

Regards

[steeshy]

Roge 1
I live in Peterhead & travel to Aberdeen everyday for work. From my house door to my works door is a distance of 38 miles, therefore a 76 mile round trip. I changed my old S40 to a new 59 plate 1.6D S40 Drive model on the basis of it's advertised fuel economy.

Below you'll see 3 years worth of driving in the real world and my figures are from the actual fuel receipts (anal retentive I know, ha ha) and not the cars fuel computer. I always run as far as I can on a single tank then fill up 'till until the pump automatically stops as a reasonable constant. In addition I have two others in my car on some days, not an inconsiderable weight penalty.

The best return I had was on a return drive to Swansea from Aberdeen last year where I actually got 69.3mpg.

I've done 62,485 miles so far in 3 years of driving and have not had any problems with the car whatsoever (thank God coz I'm not a fan of Arnlod Clark Volvo Aberdeen aftercare.)

I have two notes of caution (for me anyway.) On single carriageway roads you really need to plan ahead when overtaking. Dropping to 3rd and flooring it is the best way to get it going. My second niggle is that the interior lights to show the headlamps are on reflect in my door mirror at night and is useless as a result.

YEAR 3 OF S40 1.6D drive
Mileage for the last 12 months is 22,292 miles
Fuel used in the last 12 months is 1,769.3 litres = 389.19 gallons
Fuel cost in the last 12 months is £2530.03p
This equates to 57.27mpg or 11.35 pence per mile.

YEAR 2 OF S40 1.6D drive
Mileage for the last 12 months is 18,406 miles
Fuel used in the last 12 months is 1413.05 litres = 310.83 gallons
Fuel cost in the last 12 months is £1985.65p
This equates to 59.21 mpg or 10.78 pence per mile

YEAR 1 OF S40 1.6D drive
Mileage for the last 12 months is 16,626 miles
Fuel used in the last 12 months is 1299.21 litres = 285.79 gallons
Fuel cost in the last 12 months is £1515.67p
This equates to 57.43mpg or 9.11 pence per mile

Regards
Steven

[S70 B5254T]

Good figures there Steven Extra power is always nice, but it's hard to argue with MPG figures like that! Every car is a compromise; it's down to the individual and their own priorities.

[ozwol]

Originally Posted by volvorocks

1.6 D manual S40 is fine, not a powerhouse, but moves along nicely once moving. At 3 years old no reeal faults apart from a boot lid that would not close and the air con condenser. Same for D2 S60. Bit of a slug to start off but again goes nicely once moving. Avoid an auto D2 or 1.6. Terrible gearbox, although fuel is around the 45mpg in normal everyday driving.

Regards

Our d2 auto powershift box is excellent, ultra smooth with intelligent shifts, better than the zf6hp26 in the BM. Why do you say its terrible?

[keithjeb]

Is that road a 50/60 limit by any chance? That does make ahuge difference according to the trip computer I average touching 75 in the 50 average between Leeds & Manchester

Originally Posted by steeshy

Roge 1
I live in Peterhead & travel to Aberdeen everyday for work. From my house door to my works door is a distance of 38 miles, therefore a 76 mile round trip. I changed my old S40 to a new 59 plate 1.6D S40 Drive model on the basis of it's advertised fuel economy.

Below you'll see 3 years worth of driving in the real world and my figures are from the actual fuel receipts (anal retentive I know, ha ha) and not the cars fuel computer. I always run as far as I can on a single tank then fill up 'till until the pump automatically stops as a reasonable constant. In addition I have two others in my car on some days, not an inconsiderable weight penalty.

The best return I had was on a return drive to Swansea from Aberdeen last year where I actually got 69.3mpg.

I've done 62,485 miles so far in 3 years of driving and have not had any problems with the car whatsoever (thank God coz I'm not a fan of Arnlod Clark Volvo Aberdeen aftercare.)

I have two notes of caution (for me anyway.) On single carriageway roads you really need to plan ahead when overtaking. Dropping to 3rd and flooring it is the best way to get it going. My second niggle is that the interior lights to show the headlamps are on reflect in my door mirror at night and is useless as a result.

YEAR 3 OF S40 1.6D drive
Mileage for the last 12 months is 22,292 miles
Fuel used in the last 12 months is 1,769.3 litres = 389.19 gallons
Fuel cost in the last 12 months is £2530.03p
This equates to 57.27mpg or 11.35 pence per mile.

YEAR 2 OF S40 1.6D drive
Mileage for the last 12 months is 18,406 miles
Fuel used in the last 12 months is 1413.05 litres = 310.83 gallons
Fuel cost in the last 12 months is £1985.65p
This equates to 59.21 mpg or 10.78 pence per mile

YEAR 1 OF S40 1.6D drive
Mileage for the last 12 months is 16,626 miles
Fuel used in the last 12 months is 1299.21 litres = 285.79 gallons
Fuel cost in the last 12 months is £1515.67p
This equates to 57.43mpg or 9.11 pence per mile

Regards
Steven

[Wiznae]

I have had the V70 1.6 DRIVe for just under 2 years and I am absolutely delighted with it - As I said in earlier posts I can get 58 Mpg on a 264 mile run from Cumbernauld to Lincolnshire with the cruise set at 70 - 75

I also, on occasion, take a 74 mile trip (148 round trip) with 3 others and 4 sets of Golf Clubs with no problems whatsover - It is not a rocket but it sure as hell ain't a donkey

[volvorocks]

Originally Posted by ozwol

Our d2 auto powershift box is excellent, ultra smooth with intelligent shifts, better than the zf6hp26 in the BM. Why do you say its terrible?

Hi ozwol

Set off fast (pedal to the metal) and nothing happens for a good second, then it flies forward, then it feels as though the brakes are applying then it revs then it settles down. It also cannot decide which gear to be in. I do not like the fact (especially in sport mode (S) ) it holds on to the revs. Whats the point because torque/power runs out on the D2 around 3k - so why does the box allow the engine to rev to 4.5k? Its all noise and no progress.Under normal driving I feel it still holds on to revs for far too long. In the manual s60 D2 it sails up hills in a higher gear on the motorway. In the powershift it kicks down with the slightest application of the throttle - sending the revs well over 3k and goes nowhere!

Put it in manual, and its kind of ''not manual' - the box decides still which gear you 'want' to be in changing down on a whim. I find the box a tad jerky, especially when coming to park. The box in D holds the car on a slight incline (lets say you are parking) and a slight touch of the throttle produces no forward motion. Dab the throttle a bit more and again it 'shoots' forward resulting in the need for a quick application of the brakes.

I suppose it depends what you are used to. I have driven Jag autos RR autos, Merc autos, Renault autos, Toyota autos etc and all were better. Even the old 244 dl auto was ok. When I first got the XC60 I tested the geartronic, and it couldn't decide which gear it wanted to be in.30mph on a town run - hit a slight incline and it changed down then up then down again - It was the same on cruise..!!

Hit a bend and when one wanted to be in say 2nd, the box was in 3rd, or if one wanted to be in 3rd to power out of the bend, the box was in 4th.The car was in either too low a gear or too high a gear.

When we got the XC60 ,I actually originally wanted a T5 XC60 powershift, although this was only in FWD. To get AWD one had to go to the T6 - and this was far too uneconomical even considering I only do about 45k ish over 3 years.

I reckon (although have not driven) that the higher power engines coupled with powershift is fine. Its ok on a Ford, although in the Volvo application, especially on the lower power variants, I cannot get on with it.

This of course is just my opinion, and some may disagree.

Regards

[steeshy]

Originally Posted by keithjeb

Is that road a 50/60 limit by any chance? That does make ahuge difference according to the trip computer I average touching 75 in the 50 average between Leeds & Manchester

It's a mixture of single carriageway A class 60mph road, a twisty B 60mph road and a 70mph dual carriageway.
Forgot to say my S40 is a manual 5 speed box and I dont deliberately drive conservatively either.

Steven