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Euro 4 and ulez

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Old Jul 6th, 2020, 21:52   #1
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Hi another post from me... Two in a week ;-)

Ok...V70 petrol....2005 model.... However on a 54 plate and registered in October 2004

I'm in North London... Outside of the A406... Though with and family had me travel inside of the A406 almost daily

And ULEZ is coming to the extended North/South circular zone next year

As part of existing central London congestion charge my V70 is exempt/compliant so only one charge not two if I go into Central London (which is rare)

However extended ULEZ... And Euro 4 emissions... And a petrol V70 registered in late 2004....

It seems the same car/same engine build 01 January 2005 onwards on compliant and one registered before, even a few months... same engine and all....is not compliant....does anyone know??

And if not compliant....or not Euro 4.... What does that make it... Euro 3? From what I read Euro 3 are not allowed to drive in the Zone!!!

Though my 1970 144 is exempt!!! I can almost smell the petrol from a carburettor B20 engine without a cat as I write this.....
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Old Jul 6th, 2020, 22:18   #2
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Or.... Further reading.... Have I confused lez with ULEZ

And ULEZ is central London/congestion charge zone

And it's lez which extends to North/South circular and that's for heavy vehicles/over 3.5 tonnes

And TfL seem to say if you meet current standard will you meet new standard

Did i misread originally or am I now misreading... It's coffee time!!
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Old Jul 7th, 2020, 16:31   #3
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SEARCH FOR DVLA CO2 DATA, plumb in your date of registration etc on that and it will tell you what EURO it is
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Old Jul 9th, 2020, 10:33   #4
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Thanks

The DVLA were not really any good about what the vehicle is only if it's currently compliant

I got the answer from HPI Checker who are providing this for free

It's EURO 4 by the way....

So I assume it will be compliant with the forthcoming ULEZ?
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Old Jul 9th, 2020, 21:35   #5
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Have you tried entering your registration number in the link below to check?

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/che...-vehicle-35896

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Old Jul 10th, 2020, 01:52   #6
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I'll have a look at that one

The DVLA site only send to tell you if your vehicle is currently compliant with the existing zone

It doesn't seem to say if it will be compliant even ULEZ comes

It does seem to suggest that petrol vehicles that are Euro 4 will be compliant and then says this is generally for vehicles registered from January 2006 (or was it January 2005??)

Either way, mine is a 2005 MY model but registered late 2004....

This other site said.... Based on reg number.... That it's Euro4

So do I assume ULEZ compliant??
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Old Jul 11th, 2020, 15:54   #7
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I looked at this "problem" 2 years ago when looking for a replacement estate. As I live 1km outside the expanded ULEZ area I wanted something compliant. ULEZ requires petrol cars to have emissions below
CO: 1.0g/km
THC: 0.10g/km
NOx: 0.08g/km

Although this is the Euro 4 standard, many engines built before 2006 (when the standard became mandatory for new car registrations) have emissions below the ULEZ requirement.

So all the 2.4L NA engines from 2000 onwards are compliant regardless of what your registration book shows about Euro 4 or not.
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Old Jul 12th, 2020, 07:56   #8
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So all the 2.4L NA engines from 2000 onwards are compliant regardless of what your registration book shows about Euro 4 or not.
That is exactly my problem. My "fun" car ( a Morgan +8) is well within the limits of Euro 4 according to the MoT emissions testing , but because the car is not "homologated" to Euro 4 it is comes up as non-exempt.

I have tried to investigate the possibilities of an individual test , or similar to convince the authorities but come up against brick walls each time.

I am surprised about the comment above with motorcycles being exempt , because this was not my understanding. There is a guy in Stratford (E London) who will test bikes , modify them if necessary , and then enter the data on the TfL database. I enquired whether he would be interested in doing this for cars but met with a resounding NO, far too political and not worth the aggravation he said.
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Old Jul 13th, 2020, 19:42   #9
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It's all a gimic to con people out of their money, why pay an emissions charge on top of an emissions tax we already pay.
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