XC90: Most Unreliable Car

[Bonefishblues]

Originally Posted by SignumGB

My wife is on her second Honda Jazz. She got another last year, as the previous model to her, was so reliable and only needed bits and bobs done, so cheap to run. She did circa 10,000 miles per yer.

My Volvo XC70 since purchase in January 2019, so far spent £1,370 on maintenance. That includes servicing, MOTs, and parts for replacement. Most expensive part so far was the recent trail arm bushings. In the next year or so, that cost curve should drop level off (touch wood).

Uh - oh, I hope you're not comparing them are you

[jonnyu]

Well I cant talk about the XC90 but I own a XC60 with no issues for the last 2 years. Maybe it's a refined version since 3 years passed since the debut of the SPA platform.
But I just dont agree with this list:
Honda, Lexus and Toyota.

It's not the 00's anymore. Toyota and Lexus are no longer considered "most reliable and above any other brand". Their downfall started with their issues with Prius where major failures were detected and also caused some deaths to owners which is a bit more serious than "oh my electric window is not working". Not saying its a trashed brand but they are clearly not on the top as the "most reliable brand" anymore.

[biggbn]

Originally Posted by jonnyu

Well I cant talk about the XC90 but I own a XC60 with no issues for the last 2 years. Maybe it's a refined version since 3 years passed since the debut of the SPA platform.
But I just dont agree with this list:
Honda, Lexus and Toyota.

It's not the 00's anymore. Toyota and Lexus are no longer considered "most reliable and above any other brand". Their downfall started with their issues with Prius where major failures were detected and also caused some deaths to owners which is a bit more serious than "oh my electric window is not working". Not saying its a trashed brand but they are clearly not on the top as the "most reliable brand" anymore.

The experience of millions of owners suggests otherwise man. Last survey I looked at actually had a volvo top. Other nine spaces were Toyota or Lexus.

[Kev0607]

Originally Posted by jonnyu

Well I cant talk about the XC90 but I own a XC60 with no issues for the last 2 years. Maybe it's a refined version since 3 years passed since the debut of the SPA platform.
But I just dont agree with this list:
Honda, Lexus and Toyota.

It's not the 00's anymore. Toyota and Lexus are no longer considered "most reliable and above any other brand". Their downfall started with their issues with Prius where major failures were detected and also caused some deaths to owners which is a bit more serious than "oh my electric window is not working". Not saying its a trashed brand but they are clearly not on the top as the "most reliable brand" anymore.

Lexus & Toyota have always been high in the rankings. If not at the top, they certainly aren't far off it.

Lexus were the number 1 brand in the 2020 What Car reliability survey, Toyota came third;

1. Lexus 98.7%
2. Mitsubishi 97.9%
3. Toyota 97.7%
4. Mini 96.8%
5. Skoda 96.4%
6. Hyundai 96.3%
7. Kia 95.9%
8. Honda 95.3%
=9. BMW 95.2%
=9 Mazda 95.2%
11. Alfa 94.6%
=12. Fiat 94.5%
=12. Subaru 94.5%
=14. Dacia 94.4%
=14. Suzuki 94.4%
=16. Citroën 93.8%
=16. Volvo 93.8%
18. Ford 93.7%
19.Seat 93.6%
20.Volkswagen 93.2%
21.Jaguar 91.8%
=22. Audi 91.5%
=22. MG 91.5%
=22. Porsche 91.5%
25. Peugeot 91.1%
26. Mercedes 91.0%
=27. Nissan 90.1%
=27. Vauxhall 90.1%
29. Tesla 88.6%
30. Renault 87.6%
31. Land Rover78.2%

2019 (cars noted below) - Lexus & Toyota tops the chart, once again

1 Lexus 99.3%
2 Toyota 97.7%
3 Suzuki 97.3%
4 Tesla 96.9%
5 Subaru 96.6%
6 Kia 96.3%
7 Hyundai 95.7%
8 Mini 95.4%
9 Skoda 95.2%
10 Honda 94.9%
11 Volvo 94.7%
12 Dacia 94.5%
13 Mitsubishi 94.3%
14 Ford 94.1%
15 Seat 93.8%
16 Volkswagen 93.7%
17 Mazda 93.5%
18 Peugeot 93.4%
19 Fiat 93.3%
20 Audi 92.9%
21 BMW 92.1%
22 Citroën 91.8%
23 Porsche 91.7%
24 Mercedes-Benz 90.6%
25 Alfa Romeo 89.7%
26 Jaguar 89.5%
27 Vauxhall 89.4%
28 Nissan 85.7%
29 Jeep 84.4%
30 Renault 84.2%
31 Land Rover 81.3%

2018 - Lexus & Toyota (2nd & 3rd place)

1.Suzuki - 97.7 per cent

2. Lexus - 97.5 per cent

3 .Toyota -96.8 per cent

=4. Kia - 95.8 per cent

=4. Mitsubishi - 95.8 per cent

=4. Subaru - 95.8 per cent

7. Skoda - 95.6 per cent

8. Alfa Romeo - 95.5 per cent

9. Hyundai - 95.4 per cent

10. Seat - 95.2 per cent

=11. Vauxhall - 94.6 per cent

=11.Mazda - 94.6 per cent

13.Dacia - 94.1 per cent

14. Fiat - 94.0 per cent

15. Honda - 93.8 per cent

16. BMW - 93.4 per cent

17. Volkswagen - 92.9 per cent

18. Ford - 92.7 per cent

19. Renault - 91.7 per cent

=20. Audi - 91.5 per cent

=20. Volvo - 91.5 per cent

22. Mini - 91.2 per cent

23. Porsche - 90.9 per cent

24. Peugeot - 89.4 per cent

25. Citroen - 88.1 per cent

26. Mercedes-Benz - 88.0 per cent

27. Nissan - 87.1 per cent

28. Jaguar - 84.9 per cent

29. Jeep - 82.7 per cent

30. Land Rover - 76.5 per cent

31. Tesla - 57.3 per cent

Its nice to see Volvo on these lists too.

Originally Posted by Bonefishblues

Uh - oh, I hope you're not comparing them are you

He understands that the Volvo will cost more on maintenance being a prestige car.