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Which current Volvo is your favourite?

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View Poll Results: Favourite current Volvo?
C30 23 4.27%
V40 33 6.12%
S60 31 5.75%
V60 48 8.91%
V70 85 15.77%
S80 21 3.90%
XC60 95 17.63%
XC90 70 12.99%
C70 14 2.60%
XC70 47 8.72%
S90 20 3.71%
V90 52 9.65%
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Old May 18th, 2020, 14:13   #211
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How do you find the Cayenne? I really didn't like this type of car when they were new but now they are just another used car, albeit with potentially ruinous maintenance and repair bills, they are somewhat attractive!!
I've had my 2006MY Cayennes S (thats the one with the 4.5 litre N/A 340 bhp V8) for 4 years now and this particular example has been very good to me over the past 25K miles as my "other car" (mainly used on long drives across Europe and occasional weekends) but I have commuted to work during winter months as well as it feels so surefooted and invincible when the weather turns sour. It's also such a nice place to be in with heated steering wheel, plush heated leather seats and BOSE surround sound system. These were engineered and build in Germany to the very highest Porsche standards ( something this company is known for). After all these years the high build quality of these Cayenne SUVs is still there and if properly looked after they offer a great amount of high quality motoring for the money. The N/A 340 bhp V8 fuel economy is relatively reasonable (for a 2250 kg permanent 4X4 V8) @ 18 MPG average, rising to low 20's on a long motorway runs. By comparison the underpowered 250 bhp 3.2 litre V6 is only marginally better @ 19 MPG average while the Cayenne Turbo with its monstrous 450 BHP 4.5 litre Twin Turbo V8 struggles to average 15 mpg.

My one is a well maintained, unmodified example with F.S.H. (half of which is from Official Porsche Centre Main dealer) ... official service intervals are quite reasonable at 24 months or 20K miles (it uses very expensive MOBIL 1 0W40 Long Life engine oil and it needs 8.5 litres of the stuff every service) although I've been changing the oil & filter every 10K miles or 12 months (whichever comes first) as it's an older vehicle now averaging only around 5K miles per year. I also had the gearbox ATF fluid & filter changes @ my local OPC as soon as I purchased it back in 2016 as preventative measure however I don't use OPC for annual servicing as they try to rip you off on the price of already expensive engine oil. I can buy 10 litres of the MOBIL 1 0W40 for around £80 ... they want £150 !!! for 8.5 litres... it makes no financial sense.
Most Genuine OE service parts can be purchased form ECP & GSF type of outlets for reasonable money these days however majority of other engine, drivetrain / transmission, electrical and interior / exterior trim parts are OPC only ... or used ones from specialist breakers, if you're lucky to find what you need. Some components are also shared with the VW Touareg but a lot fewer than you'd think.

When New my Cayenne S was £65,000 back in late 2005 (it has £20K worth of options) and while these days you can find a number of the basic Cayennes (that's the one with the underpowered VAG 3.2 litre N/A 250 bhp V6) for £3000 ish in roadworthy condition I would personally avoid the cheapest examples like the plague as they are just ticking time bombs ... especially the early 2003 & 2004 Cayennes S with well known engine cylinder bore score issues (later sorted for the 2005 & 2006 end of Cayenne S 955 model line up) hence why I bought the later 955 version with the revised N/A V8 engine after many months of research.

As tempting as these cheap Cayennes are, they are still expensive luxury SUV with higher then average service and running costs. If you're unlucky these have high potential to ruin your wallet, very quickly. Another problem is these are now becoming increasingly difficult to find in decent, clean and well maintained condition as majority of these have fallen into the hands of new owner who think they can run these "Champagne" motors on their limited " Coca Cola " budget with dire consequences.

Ironically I purchased the XC60 D5 AWD few months ago thinking it would be a comparable replacement for the Cayenne and while my newly acquired XC60 is a very competent, decent all rounder, having owned both side by side I realise my thinking was wrong ... they just don't compare. While I have very little use or need for the Porsche anymore I'm struggling to let it go as it's such a great vehicle in its own right. This leaves me with a bit of a 1st World problem and a dilemma. Which do I sell ?
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I've had my 2006MY Cayennes S (thats the one with the 4.5 litre N/A 340 bhp V8) for 4 years now and this particular example has been very good to me over the past 25K miles as my "other car" (mainly used on long drives across Europe and occasional weekends) but I have commuted to work during winter months as well as it feels so surefooted and invincible when the weather turns sour. It's also such a nice place to be in with heated steering wheel, plush heated leather seats and BOSE surround sound system. These were engineered and build in Germany to the very highest Porsche standards ( something this company is known for). After all these years the high build quality of these Cayenne SUVs is still there and if properly looked after they offer a great amount of high quality motoring for the money. The N/A 340 bhp V8 fuel economy is relatively reasonable (for a 2250 kg permanent 4X4 V8) @ 18 MPG average, rising to low 20's on a long motorway runs. By comparison the underpowered 250 bhp 3.2 litre V6 is only marginally better @ 19 MPG average while the Cayenne Turbo with its monstrous 450 BHP 4.5 litre Twin Turbo V8 struggles to average 15 mpg.

My one is a well maintained, unmodified example with F.S.H. (half of which is from Official Porsche Centre Main dealer) ... official service intervals are quite reasonable at 24 months or 20K miles (it uses very expensive MOBIL 1 0W40 Long Life engine oil and it needs 8.5 litres of the stuff every service) although I've been changing the oil & filter every 10K miles or 12 months (whichever comes first) as it's an older vehicle now averaging only around 5K miles per year. I also had the gearbox ATF fluid & filter changes @ my local OPC as soon as I purchased it back in 2016 as preventative measure however I don't use OPC for annual servicing as they try to rip you off on the price of already expensive engine oil. I can buy 10 litres of the MOBIL 1 0W40 for around £80 ... they want £150 !!! for 8.5 litres... it makes no financial sense.
Most Genuine OE service parts can be purchased form ECP & GSF type of outlets for reasonable money these days however majority of other engine, drivetrain / transmission, electrical and interior / exterior trim parts are OPC only ... or used ones from specialist breakers, if you're lucky to find what you need. Some components are also shared with the VW Touareg but a lot fewer than you'd think.

When New my Cayenne S was £65,000 back in late 2005 (it has £20K worth of options) and while these days you can find a number of the basic Cayennes (that's the one with the underpowered VAG 3.2 litre N/A 250 bhp V6) for £3000 ish in roadworthy condition I would personally avoid the cheapest examples like the plague as they are just ticking time bombs ... especially the early 2003 & 2004 Cayennes S with well known engine cylinder bore score issues (later sorted for the 2005 & 2006 end of Cayenne S 955 model line up) hence why I bought the later 955 version with the revised N/A V8 engine after many months of research.

As tempting as these cheap Cayennes are, they are still expensive luxury SUV with higher then average service and running costs. If you're unlucky these have high potential to ruin your wallet, very quickly. Another problem is these are now becoming increasingly difficult to find in decent, clean and well maintained condition as majority of these have fallen into the hands of new owner who think they can run these "Champagne" motors on their limited " Coca Cola " budget with dire consequences.

Ironically I purchased the XC60 D5 AWD few months ago thinking it would be a comparable replacement for the Cayenne and while my newly acquired XC60 is a very competent, decent all rounder, having owned both side by side I realise my thinking was wrong ... they just don't compare. While I have very little use or need for the Porsche anymore I'm struggling to let it go as it's such a great vehicle in its own right. This leaves me with a bit of a 1st World problem and a dilemma. Which do I sell ?
I think my money would/will at some point, go on a lexus rx. There was a v8 cayenne with fish and 185k local to me recently for less than 2k and I have been offered various v6 examples for similar money. Incredible that companies like Porsche, BMW and Jaguar would produce engines that wear so drastically though..is it a nikasil bore issue like the early v8 x308?

Thanks for all the info. I have always said a big petrol engined suv makes just as much (or little?) sense as a diesel for the small mpg drop. My mate had a v6 cayenne from new and I simultaneously detested it for what it was and adored it for how its made!!
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I think my money would/will at some point, go on a lexus rx. There was a v8 cayenne with fsh and 185k local to me recently for less than 2k and I have been offered various v6 examples for similar money. Incredible that companies like Porsche, BMW and Jaguar would produce engines that wear so drastically though..is it a nikasil bore issue like the early v8 x308?
Porsche call their version on Nikasil "Lokasil" which apparently was a new silicon based material that was very similar to Alusil but not the same. This problem wasn't just isolated to early Cayenne Ss... large number of 911s from the 997 generation and Caymen S / Boxter S 3.2s suffer from these problems. Not very impressive for such a large performance car company like Porsche.

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Thanks for all the info. I have always said a big petrol engined suv makes just as much (or little?) sense as a diesel for the small mpg drop. My mate had a v6 cayenne from new and I simultaneously detested it for what it was and adored it for how its made!!
No worries ... V8 powered SUVs (Petrol or Diesel) every time
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I've had my 2006MY Cayennes S (thats the one with the 4.5 litre N/A 340 bhp V8) for 4 years now and this particular example has been very good to me over the past 25K miles as my "other car" (mainly used on long drives across Europe and occasional weekends) but I have commuted to work during winter months as well as it feels so surefooted and invincible when the weather turns sour. It's also such a nice place to be in with heated steering wheel, plush heated leather seats and BOSE surround sound system. These were engineered and build in Germany to the very highest Porsche standards ( something this company is known for). After all these years the high build quality of these Cayenne SUVs is still there and if properly looked after they offer a great amount of high quality motoring for the money. The N/A 340 bhp V8 fuel economy is relatively reasonable (for a 2250 kg permanent 4X4 V8) @ 18 MPG average, rising to low 20's on a long motorway runs. By comparison the underpowered 250 bhp 3.2 litre V6 is only marginally better @ 19 MPG average while the Cayenne Turbo with its monstrous 450 BHP 4.5 litre Twin Turbo V8 struggles to average 15 mpg.

My one is a well maintained, unmodified example with F.S.H. (half of which is from Official Porsche Centre Main dealer) ... official service intervals are quite reasonable at 24 months or 20K miles (it uses very expensive MOBIL 1 0W40 Long Life engine oil and it needs 8.5 litres of the stuff every service) although I've been changing the oil & filter every 10K miles or 12 months (whichever comes first) as it's an older vehicle now averaging only around 5K miles per year. I also had the gearbox ATF fluid & filter changes @ my local OPC as soon as I purchased it back in 2016 as preventative measure however I don't use OPC for annual servicing as they try to rip you off on the price of already expensive engine oil. I can buy 10 litres of the MOBIL 1 0W40 for around £80 ... they want £150 !!! for 8.5 litres... it makes no financial sense.
Most Genuine OE service parts can be purchased form ECP & GSF type of outlets for reasonable money these days however majority of other engine, drivetrain / transmission, electrical and interior / exterior trim parts are OPC only ... or used ones from specialist breakers, if you're lucky to find what you need. Some components are also shared with the VW Touareg but a lot fewer than you'd think.

When New my Cayenne S was £65,000 back in late 2005 (it has £20K worth of options) and while these days you can find a number of the basic Cayennes (that's the one with the underpowered VAG 3.2 litre N/A 250 bhp V6) for £3000 ish in roadworthy condition I would personally avoid the cheapest examples like the plague as they are just ticking time bombs ... especially the early 2003 & 2004 Cayennes S with well known engine cylinder bore score issues (later sorted for the 2005 & 2006 end of Cayenne S 955 model line up) hence why I bought the later 955 version with the revised N/A V8 engine after many months of research.

As tempting as these cheap Cayennes are, they are still expensive luxury SUV with higher then average service and running costs. If you're unlucky these have high potential to ruin your wallet, very quickly. Another problem is these are now becoming increasingly difficult to find in decent, clean and well maintained condition as majority of these have fallen into the hands of new owner who think they can run these "Champagne" motors on their limited " Coca Cola " budget with dire consequences.

Ironically I purchased the XC60 D5 AWD few months ago thinking it would be a comparable replacement for the Cayenne and while my newly acquired XC60 is a very competent, decent all rounder, having owned both side by side I realise my thinking was wrong ... they just don't compare. While I have very little use or need for the Porsche anymore I'm struggling to let it go as it's such a great vehicle in its own right. This leaves me with a bit of a 1st World problem and a dilemma. Which do I sell ?
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A freind of mine got a porsche new 3 years ago said its best car he's Driven . .I drive a 940 volvo D24 owned for 23 years and now with 302000miles . So I stick with the D24 a safe cheap .reliable plodder
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One is a luxury fully loaded sports vehicle and the other isn’t luxury for a start.
That would have been so much cooler if it had said….. One is a luxury fully loaded sports vehicle and the other is German 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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