V60 D4 181 vs 190 - Page 2

RoyMacDonald · Feb 7th, 2016, 20:51

The V40 is a more direct replacement for a Focus as they use the same chassis although Volvo have lengthened it slightly for the V40.

With a D4 engine it really flies.

The five pot D5 is king though in the V60.

GMcL · Feb 7th, 2016, 21:28

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Originally Posted by Garyballyroney

Wife going for a v40 d2 r design drove it and seems really impressive as a second car. Would have loved winter pact but none of the demos have it.

Then I would wait and specify exactly to the dealer what you want. In my mind if it doesn't have a winter pack then it's not a Volvo.
I wouldn't buy a BMW with fewer than 6 cylinders, I wouldn't buy a Volvo without a winter pack, it's part of the package. It's in their DNA.

With regard to the V60, I'd steer clear of the D4 for now, stick with a five cylinder, it may cost more in road tax but they are a very robust engine.

RoyMacDonald · Feb 7th, 2016, 23:34

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Originally Posted by GMcL

Then I would wait and specify exactly to the dealer what you want. In my mind if it doesn't have a winter pack then it's not a Volvo.
I wouldn't buy a BMW with fewer than 6 cylinders, I wouldn't buy a Volvo without a winter pack, it's part of the package. It's in their DNA.

With regard to the V60, I'd steer clear of the D4 for now, stick with a five cylinder, it may cost more in road tax but they are a very robust engine.

I wouldn't buy a Volvo with a winter pack. 35 years of owning them and none of them ever had or needed a heated windscreen in my view. (or lack of view with a heated screen)

GMcL · Feb 8th, 2016, 00:15

A winter pack to me is the heated seats and extra thick floor mats.
You can keep your heated windscreen, that's a gimmick for me.

RoyMacDonald · Feb 8th, 2016, 00:28

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Originally Posted by GMcL

A winter pack to me is the heated seats and extra thick floor mats.
You can keep your heated windscreen, that's a gimmick for me.

Now those I like especially the heated seats. Just a shame winter pack for all except the heads up display XC90 means a heated windscreen.

Is it me or should the winter pack include rubber floor mats?

wimorrison · Feb 8th, 2016, 08:35

Heated Screen a gimmick and useless? Absolutely no way - very useful. It is what I have been missing in my cars for many years

(plus wife wont get in a car without heated seats - even had to put them into Landrover!)

GMcL · Feb 8th, 2016, 17:10

I only say gimmick because my car is garaged.
Sub-zero temperature and cold engine requires a little boost via the heated seats, I've never had the windscreen freeze solid while driving those first few miles until the engine warms through.

Ninja59 · Feb 14th, 2016, 07:55

I think the heated windscreen is a personal one, but based on the people with certain views and their previous posts it is more down to the fact that the thin wires in the heated windscreen can be distracting (I must admit I know what they are getting at).

Flip side the heated windscreen on a car left outside means that you rarely need a scrapper as it acts that quickly.

Arianne · Feb 14th, 2016, 08:36

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Originally Posted by Ninja59

Flip side the heated windscreen on a car left outside means that you rarely need a scrapper as it acts that quickly.

...... except that I still need the scraper to clear the driver & passenger glass. I know that is usually easier than the windscreen but it seems that the solution of the heated windscreen is 'half-baked' as I am standing there clearing the other windows in the cold.

Heated seats are a must for me, we even have them in the rear. I also sometimes find the electrical element in the heated windscreen causes the slightest diffraction of oncoming headlights.

Personally, what I would love most would be an auxiliary heater, on a timer, so that the cabin and engine is pre-heated just before we get in in the morning. Our car sits on the drive as our garage is my personal world of DIY & other projects!

Arianne

Fat Magpie · Feb 14th, 2016, 09:03

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Personally, what I would love most would be an auxiliary heater, on a timer, so that the cabin and engine is pre-heated just before we get in in the morning. Our car sits on the drive as our garage is my personal world of DIY & other projects!

Arianne

The aux heater is the business.... programmed timer or remote control.

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wimorrison Grumpy Old Sod Last Online: Dec 14th, 2021 15:39 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hampshire, nee Scotland	Heated Screen a gimmick and useless? Absolutely no way - very useful. It is what I have been missing in my cars for many years (plus wife wont get in a car without heated seats - even had to put them into Landrover!) __________________ Currently XC60 Previously XC60, V70, S40, ...

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GMcL 0's and 1's Last Online: Today 11:04 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: -	I only say gimmick because my car is garaged. Sub-zero temperature and cold engine requires a little boost via the heated seats, I've never had the windscreen freeze solid while driving those first few miles until the engine warms through. __________________ 2011 Volvo S60 D3 R-design Premium - 2020 Focus ST estate automatic - 2020 KIA eSoul 150kW 64kwh EV Previous: 2005 Volvo S60 D5 Sport - 2017 Focus RS

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Ninja59 Probably Akita's Toyboy.. Last Online: Dec 27th, 2023 22:24 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: A House.	I think the heated windscreen is a personal one, but based on the people with certain views and their previous posts it is more down to the fact that the thin wires in the heated windscreen can be distracting (I must admit I know what they are getting at). Flip side the heated windscreen on a car left outside means that you rarely need a scrapper as it acts that quickly.

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