Noise at cold start - Page 2

ampy · Sep 15th, 2018, 22:33

Hi,
Yes, stethoscope is always a great way of tracking noises.
I have had pretty good results using a piece of garden hose. It is surprisingly effective with the open end placed firmly on a part with the other end up to your ear.
Ampy.

Thommykent · Sep 15th, 2018, 22:59

Even a long screw driver with the the handle on your ear is very effective stethoscope

Crixus · Sep 17th, 2018, 16:54

Thank you all for your valuable comments. Sorry for not replying sooner but I have been away on a job.

Although I have received suggestions such as ruined VVT-gear or ruined ABS-pump, I believe you are right guys as I can localize the noise somewhere between left front wheel and the bulkhead and this is exactly the area where the starter is installed (under the air filter box).

I will check the starter with a stethoscope as well before I remove it. Then I'll decide what to do next i. e. clean the starter and reinstall it or install an used one.

I certainly will let you know what I found. Many thanks again to all of you!

Thommykent · Sep 21st, 2018, 17:23

Tannaton through PM`s, has while not directly saying it and not being able to defend his position on Bendix drive, realizes the starter has a Bendix.

Tannaton · Sep 21st, 2018, 21:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thommykent

Tannaton through PM`s, has while not directly saying it and not being able to defend his position on Bendix drive, realizes the starter has a Bendix.

Keep smoking your own dope mate and you’ll be fine...

Thommykent · Sep 21st, 2018, 21:24

I want yours, it seems better.

Crixus · Nov 8th, 2018, 15:30

Hello,

I have now removed the starter, taken it to pieces, cleaned it and lubricated it. I have run it on bench and it seems to work just fine but the issue in terms of a rattling noise remains.

See below the starter running on bench (1) and the rattling noise at cold start (2).

(1) Starter running on bench: https://youtu.be/joPuXmfjgKM

(2) Rattling noise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX1jngcvKN0

Can it still be the starter or is it something else? Any ideas?

Thommykent · Nov 9th, 2018, 18:24

Starter seems perfect. When you rev the engine does that noise change? Sounds like a serpentine belt pulley bearing going out. My V8 has started making a similar noise since the temp outside is cooler and it`s a belt pulley

Model flyer · Nov 9th, 2018, 18:44

Before you go any distance I would check the timing belt etc as that could destroy your engine . Can you detect what area of the engine it's coming from?

Model flyer · Nov 9th, 2018, 18:51

Sorry double post ?

Sep 17th, 2018, 16:54	#13
Crixus New Member Last Online: Dec 23rd, 2018 15:06 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Varberg	Thank you all for your valuable comments. Sorry for not replying sooner but I have been away on a job. Although I have received suggestions such as ruined VVT-gear or ruined ABS-pump, I believe you are right guys as I can localize the noise somewhere between left front wheel and the bulkhead and this is exactly the area where the starter is installed (under the air filter box). I will check the starter with a stethoscope as well before I remove it. Then I'll decide what to do next i. e. clean the starter and reinstall it or install an used one. I certainly will let you know what I found. Many thanks again to all of you! Last edited by Crixus; Sep 17th, 2018 at 18:37.

Nov 8th, 2018, 15:30	#17
Crixus New Member Last Online: Dec 23rd, 2018 15:06 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Varberg	Hello, I have now removed the starter, taken it to pieces, cleaned it and lubricated it. I have run it on bench and it seems to work just fine but the issue in terms of a rattling noise remains. See below the starter running on bench (1) and the rattling noise at cold start (2). (1) Starter running on bench: https://youtu.be/joPuXmfjgKM (2) Rattling noise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX1jngcvKN0 Can it still be the starter or is it something else? Any ideas? Last edited by Crixus; Nov 8th, 2018 at 16:03.

Nov 9th, 2018, 18:44	#19
Model flyer Master Member Last Online: Dec 15th, 2023 18:46 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent,pothole capital of UK.	Before you go any distance I would check the timing belt etc as that could destroy your engine . Can you detect what area of the engine it's coming from? __________________ The secret of flight is to aim at the ground and miss ! Previous Volvos 740 GLE . V40 CD ,V70 2.4 SE LPT.V70 D5 P2. V70 D5 Se Lux P3. Current Jaguar XF Sportbrake but still like Volvos

Nov 9th, 2018, 18:51	#20
Model flyer Master Member Last Online: Dec 15th, 2023 18:46 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent,pothole capital of UK.	Sorry double post ? __________________ The secret of flight is to aim at the ground and miss ! Previous Volvos 740 GLE . V40 CD ,V70 2.4 SE LPT.V70 D5 P2. V70 D5 Se Lux P3. Current Jaguar XF Sportbrake but still like Volvos

Sep 15th, 2018, 22:33	#11
ampy Junior Member Last Online: Mar 21st, 2024 21:31 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Cardiff	Hi, Yes, stethoscope is always a great way of tracking noises. I have had pretty good results using a piece of garden hose. It is surprisingly effective with the open end placed firmly on a part with the other end up to your ear. Ampy.

Sep 15th, 2018, 22:59	#12
Thommykent Junior Member Last Online: Nov 5th, 2020 19:29 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Bellevue	Even a long screw driver with the the handle on your ear is very effective stethoscope

Sep 21st, 2018, 17:23	#14
Thommykent Junior Member Last Online: Nov 5th, 2020 19:29 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Bellevue	Tannaton through PM`s, has while not directly saying it and not being able to defend his position on Bendix drive, realizes the starter has a Bendix.

Sep 21st, 2018, 21:24	#16
Thommykent Junior Member Last Online: Nov 5th, 2020 19:29 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Bellevue	I want yours, it seems better.

Nov 9th, 2018, 18:24	#18
Thommykent Junior Member Last Online: Nov 5th, 2020 19:29 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Bellevue	Starter seems perfect. When you rev the engine does that noise change? Sounds like a serpentine belt pulley bearing going out. My V8 has started making a similar noise since the temp outside is cooler and it`s a belt pulley

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