car tax and emmissions - Page 2

Dippydog · Mar 3rd, 2019, 07:57

As I understand it there are two parts to it for petrol engines the "natural idle" which is tickover and "fast idle" where higher revs are held for a set number of seconds? Diesel test is different in this regard I believe? As for car tax/emissions I have two cars the V70 is insured for 4,000mls per year and the Omega for 1,000 per year neither car comes close to hitting those limits,so while my cars are relatively thirsty[and therefore more polluting?] compared to smaller engine vehicles am I causing more or less pollution than a smaller engine car[with cheaper tax/ved rate]doing the national average or even more?I have said for years that car tax should be scrapped and the cost added to fuel then that way those using the roads more would pay more.

Zebster · Mar 3rd, 2019, 08:54

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Originally Posted by byootox

Idle and tick over are one in the same

I believe you actually mean 'one and the same'?

They aren't. And if you hadn't given me that 'rolleyes' emoji b0llocks I would have educated you regarding the difference.

byootox · Mar 5th, 2019, 20:51

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Originally Posted by Zebster

The MOT test does not assess your emission figures under normal road use, merely on idle.

The engine certainly isn't just tested on idle.
Your post is misleading.

Zebster · Mar 5th, 2019, 21:11

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Originally Posted by byootox

The engine certainly isn't just tested on idle.
Your post is misleading.

You not understanding what 'idle' actually means does not make my post misleading.

byootox · Mar 6th, 2019, 20:51

Idle ? they rev the nuts off them

The above statement was made by Kustom 2007 so it would appear it's not only my understanding of your post that's the problem and I can understand his confusion with your misleading post.
The only thing I can think about you are referring to is when the engine is being put under load.

Zebster · Mar 7th, 2019, 08:08

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Originally Posted by byootox

Idle and tick over are one in the same

^This incorrect post is actually the misleading statement.

byootox · Mar 8th, 2019, 19:29

Exactly what is misleading about it ?

eternal optimist · Mar 8th, 2019, 19:49

This is all very interesting, but the OP’s not been on the site since March 2nd, I’m still no wiser as to the question I asked earlier.

byootox · Mar 10th, 2019, 13:59

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Originally Posted by eternal optimist

This is all very interesting, but the OP’s not been on the site since March 2nd, I’m still no wiser as to the question I asked earlier.

The value is essentially light absorption by the smoke the higher the value the thicker the smoke.
The M-1 part I believe is a molar value which is normally a value of a chemical or substance.
In this case smoke.
There's a bit more to the emissions testing than the little basic testers that are widely used at the mot stations I'm afraid.
That's why your ved/tax doesnt quite add up with what you pay.

eternal optimist · Mar 10th, 2019, 14:01

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Originally Posted by byootox

The value is essentially light absorption by the smoke the higher the value the thicker the smoke.
The M-1 part I believe is a molar value which is normally a value of a chemical or substance.
In this case smoke.
There's a bit more to the emissions testing than the little basic testers that are widely used at the mot stations I'm afraid.
That's why your ved/tax doesnt quite add up with what you pay.

What has that got to do with the question I asked the OP?

Mar 6th, 2019, 20:51	#15
byootox Premier Member Last Online: Dec 20th, 2021 23:22 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Edinburgh	Idle ? they rev the nuts off them The above statement was made by Kustom 2007 so it would appear it's not only my understanding of your post that's the problem and I can understand his confusion with your misleading post. The only thing I can think about you are referring to is when the engine is being put under load. __________________ 99 V70 T5

Mar 8th, 2019, 19:29	#17
byootox Premier Member Last Online: Dec 20th, 2021 23:22 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Edinburgh	Exactly what is misleading about it ? __________________ 99 V70 T5

Mar 3rd, 2019, 07:57	#11
Dippydog Premier Member Last Online: Today 19:11 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: S****horpe	As I understand it there are two parts to it for petrol engines the "natural idle" which is tickover and "fast idle" where higher revs are held for a set number of seconds? Diesel test is different in this regard I believe? As for car tax/emissions I have two cars the V70 is insured for 4,000mls per year and the Omega for 1,000 per year neither car comes close to hitting those limits,so while my cars are relatively thirsty[and therefore more polluting?] compared to smaller engine vehicles am I causing more or less pollution than a smaller engine car[with cheaper tax/ved rate]doing the national average or even more?I have said for years that car tax should be scrapped and the cost added to fuel then that way those using the roads more would pay more.

Mar 8th, 2019, 19:49	#18
eternal optimist Master Member Last Online: Apr 17th, 2024 13:55 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Reading	This is all very interesting, but the OP’s not been on the site since March 2nd, I’m still no wiser as to the question I asked earlier.

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