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Old Jul 22nd, 2019, 16:23   #11
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A plastic component that melts and in some circumstances catches fire.

The chinese bought this engine as a turnkey project from an Austrian contractor having previously paid off many of their european engineering staff and have not themselves had the facilities to stay on top of the design faults inherent in this engine.

Time to put aside any residual warm feelings for the brand.

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Think I agree with you Don, the Ford influence is noticable but they were still essentially volvo engines, at least the D5..rest of the car was ford mind. Don't mind ford's, they made good cars at reasonable prices, the urine extraction was volvo prices for Ford bits.
The move to prestige brand has been compleated in the prices they charge, pity the quality has not kept pace with prices.

Still they now compete with JLR in price and reliability.

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Old Jul 22nd, 2019, 16:37   #12
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A plastic component that melts and in some circumstances catches fire.

The chinese bought this engine as a turnkey project from an Austrian contractor having previously paid off many of their european engineering staff and have not themselves had the facilities to stay on top of the design faults inherent in this engine.

Time to put aside any residual warm feelings for the brand.

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This is a Volvo engine based on the old V40 petrol block , however the plastic inlet manifold is pure ford style as used on many ford engines . Volvo must have kept on some Ford personnel i reckon !

reference please where you got the Austrian info from? otherwise it is heresay ..
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Old Jul 22nd, 2019, 17:34   #14
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This is a Volvo engine based on the old V40 petrol block , however the plastic inlet manifold is pure ford style as used on many ford engines . Volvo must have kept on some Ford personnel i reckon !

reference please where you got the Austrian info from? otherwise it is heresay ..
Our 2003 Toyota MR2 also has a plastic intake manifold, which has never caused any problems (however EGR is controlled via exhaust valve timing not via a valve into the intake)
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Bought my 'new to me' V90 just over a week ago and my recall envelope dropped on the mat on Saturday morning.
Great to know there is a problem.

It really installs confidence, especially when they dont yet have the parts to fix it.
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Bought my 'new to me' V90 just over a week ago and my recall envelope dropped on the mat on Saturday morning.
Great to know there is a problem.

It really installs confidence, especially when they dont yet have the parts to fix it.
All car manufactures have these issues, you won’t beat Lamborghini for bursting into flames. My 5cyl D4 had a recall for a fuel pipe and it was done in a jiffy. Enjoy your new motor.

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Way back in the mists of time British Leyland or whatever they were calling themselves on any given day[they were not alone in this] were roundly criticised for releasing under developed/faulty vehicles and putting it on the buyer to do the "development".Nowadays the sheer number of recalls issued by all manufacturers is quite frightening where you'd think with improved technology/manufacturing methods such things would be few and far between but it seems to be getting worse not better.
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Way back in the mists of time British Leyland or whatever they were calling themselves on any given day[they were not alone in this] were roundly criticised for releasing under developed/faulty vehicles and putting it on the buyer to do the "development".Nowadays the sheer number of recalls issued by all manufacturers is quite frightening where you'd think with improved technology/manufacturing methods such things would be few and far between but it seems to be getting worse not better.
I was just thinking the same thing!
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Old Jul 23rd, 2019, 09:13   #19
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Just my 2c worth but I don't think there's anything wrong with plastic inlet manifolds in itself, kind of got the tone of that in some of the posts.
Metal manifolds have the down side of transferring the heat and heating the air more before entering the engine.

Obviously it has to be the right type of plastic and proper quality, mind.
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Way back in the mists of time British Leyland or whatever they were calling themselves on any given day[they were not alone in this] were roundly criticised for releasing under developed/faulty vehicles and putting it on the buyer to do the "development".Nowadays the sheer number of recalls issued by all manufacturers is quite frightening where you'd think with improved technology/manufacturing methods such things would be few and far between but it seems to be getting worse not better.

Quality engineers will know the pro's and cons of various design options, materials, modifications etc but, I bet its the accountants that force them to do a job badly so styuff can be hurled out the door and they can get onto the next project rather than waste time and money to make something well in the first instance.
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