B230 onto an M41 Gearbox - Page 3

DJS · Jul 26th, 2013, 16:38

Interesting idea. I've just checked the CF ZF box out, and they are very small.

Derek UK · Jul 26th, 2013, 23:08

I think there is a Holden connection with this CF box?

Burdekin · Jul 26th, 2013, 23:35

Not sure but maybe could have been in some Toranas as I think that's the same as the Vauxhall Viva?

Rick269 · Jul 27th, 2013, 00:53

I don't think our Bedfords here had the ZF 5 speed as most of ours had a Holden 202 red motor fitted with a 4 speed or auto.

The Torana's only ever had 4 speed box's, the Opel 4 speed which is very weak and the 'Aussie' 4 speed in 6 and v8 versions, which is strong but probably no stronger than a good M41 IMO. And of course, still no overdrive.

I'm investigating fitting a 5 speed steel case Celica box, the dellow bellhousing is the expensive bit, being $550 last time I checked with them. But the gearboxes are plentiful here and they are very strong. My brother had one years ago in his Holden ute behind a pretty hot 308 (5L) V8 and it took the power well. The Supra W58 will bolt up to a steel case Celica bellhousing too (Different bolt pattern though, not sure if the dellow BH has provisions for this) and they are about the strongest box you could bolt on, stronger even than a T5 I'd say.

DJS, I'd be really interested in one of your custom intake manifolds if you are going to be making a couple of them.

john h · Jul 27th, 2013, 07:21

I'm very interested in this turbo Amazons business... might even have to build one some day!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick269

I think you may run into problems with the rear mounted distributor?

You can use a block-mounted 240 distributor instead. Also need to swap in the 240 auxilary shaft to drive it. That's what I did with my 245 turbo conversion

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...159425&page=38

Keep up the good work

John

Burdekin · Jul 27th, 2013, 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick269

I don't think our Bedfords here had the ZF 5 speed as most of ours had a Holden 202 red motor fitted with a 4 speed or auto.

The Torana's only ever had 4 speed box's, the Opel 4 speed which is very weak and the 'Aussie' 4 speed in 6 and v8 versions, which is strong but probably no stronger than a good M41 IMO. And of course, still no overdrive.

I'm investigating fitting a 5 speed steel case Celica box, the dellow bellhousing is the expensive bit, being $550 last time I checked with them. But the gearboxes are plentiful here and they are very strong. My brother had one years ago in his Holden ute behind a pretty hot 308 (5L) V8 and it took the power well. The Supra W58 will bolt up to a steel case Celica bellhousing too (Different bolt pattern though, not sure if the dellow BH has provisions for this) and they are about the strongest box you could bolt on, stronger even than a T5 I'd say.

DJS, I'd be really interested in one of your custom intake manifolds if you are going to be making a couple of them.

I had a W58 but sold it, should have kept hold of it. Will see if there are any more about.

DJS · Jul 27th, 2013, 13:17

Hi John.

Thanks for the link and the dizzy info. You're doing a cracking job on the 240.

My Amazon now has a 240 axle, 17" steels and will soon have the turbo motor. It should be a fun car. I just need to decide which gearbox to use.

Cheers,

Darren.

Quote:

Originally Posted by john h

I'm very interested in this turbo Amazons business... might even have to build one some day!

You can use a block-mounted 240 distributor instead. Also need to swap in the 240 auxilary shaft to drive it. That's what I did with my 245 turbo conversion

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...159425&page=38

Keep up the good work

John

DJS · Jul 27th, 2013, 13:20

I'll keep you posted about the manifold. I can't see any sensible way around it, so I might as well get on and make one. We've got a fair bit of water-jet etc in this area, so once the CAD is done, it's a case of getting the bits cut and fabricating it.

DJS, I'd be really interested in one of your custom intake manifolds if you are going to be making a couple of them.[/QUOTE]

Burdekin · Jul 27th, 2013, 16:11

Anyone know if a M90 fits in a P1800e tunnel?

DJS · Jul 27th, 2013, 18:07

I had a good look at it last night Mitch.

I think that it will with very minor mods if any.

The only issue is the release bearing lever. It will need some mods to work with a cable set up. There is also no speedo drive.

Jul 27th, 2013, 00:53	#24
Rick269 Junior Member Last Online: Jul 14th, 2018 06:06 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: SA	I don't think our Bedfords here had the ZF 5 speed as most of ours had a Holden 202 red motor fitted with a 4 speed or auto. The Torana's only ever had 4 speed box's, the Opel 4 speed which is very weak and the 'Aussie' 4 speed in 6 and v8 versions, which is strong but probably no stronger than a good M41 IMO. And of course, still no overdrive. I'm investigating fitting a 5 speed steel case Celica box, the dellow bellhousing is the expensive bit, being $550 last time I checked with them. But the gearboxes are plentiful here and they are very strong. My brother had one years ago in his Holden ute behind a pretty hot 308 (5L) V8 and it took the power well. The Supra W58 will bolt up to a steel case Celica bellhousing too (Different bolt pattern though, not sure if the dellow BH has provisions for this) and they are about the strongest box you could bolt on, stronger even than a T5 I'd say. DJS, I'd be really interested in one of your custom intake manifolds if you are going to be making a couple of them. Last edited by Rick269; Jul 27th, 2013 at 01:24.

Jul 26th, 2013, 16:38	#21
DJS Senior Member Last Online: Aug 22nd, 2022 21:05 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Warwickshire	Interesting idea. I've just checked the CF ZF box out, and they are very small.

Jul 26th, 2013, 23:08	#22
Derek UK VOC Member Last Online: Yesterday 17:06 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chatham	I think there is a Holden connection with this CF box?

Jul 26th, 2013, 23:35	#23
Burdekin Chief Bodger Last Online: Today 17:46 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Aberdeen	Not sure but maybe could have been in some Toranas as I think that's the same as the Vauxhall Viva?

Jul 27th, 2013, 13:20	#28
DJS Senior Member Last Online: Aug 22nd, 2022 21:05 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Warwickshire	I'll keep you posted about the manifold. I can't see any sensible way around it, so I might as well get on and make one. We've got a fair bit of water-jet etc in this area, so once the CAD is done, it's a case of getting the bits cut and fabricating it. DJS, I'd be really interested in one of your custom intake manifolds if you are going to be making a couple of them.[/QUOTE]

Jul 27th, 2013, 16:11	#29
Burdekin Chief Bodger Last Online: Today 17:46 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Aberdeen	Anyone know if a M90 fits in a P1800e tunnel?

Jul 27th, 2013, 18:07	#30
DJS Senior Member Last Online: Aug 22nd, 2022 21:05 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Warwickshire	I had a good look at it last night Mitch. I think that it will with very minor mods if any. The only issue is the release bearing lever. It will need some mods to work with a cable set up. There is also no speedo drive.

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