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!!! HELP!!! 960KG, GATOS.anyone with knowledge.. no clutch

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Old Oct 14th, 2011, 09:19   #51
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First of all this is only an opinion after reading of peoples experiences with "Scan-Tech" parts and the answer is don`t
these are cheap parts and depending on what they are usually need replacing again in 6 months our Volvo`s deserve better than that and in the end it will cost twice as much with also twice as much effort to replace the item

Regarding the clutch lining tool this is a "must have" as i have spent countless hours trying to line up gearboxes at midnight in the garage once i had the correct tool lining up was a doddle everytime
this is one tool that is not just sold to make a profit but has to be used because that is why it is manufactured
the clutch plate has to be exactly central for the box to line up if it doesn`t you cannot tell which way you have to move the plate so the tool is the easiest and best way, it has to be exact as the gearbox shaft not only lines up on the splines (the easy bit) but it has to then insert itself into the end bush on the engine crankshaft which is the difficult bit if not exactly central
you can buy one from 10 to 25quid even on ebay if you use Scan -Tech parts you will need it again anyway

the reason DWM only paid £70 for his slave cylinder is because it depends which gearbox you have fitted and not the engine, his has the cylinder on top of the box with just the normal clutch release bearing, M5P box.

neanderthal has the clutch release bearing together with the cylinder inside the bell housing with nothing on top this is M56 box
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Old Oct 14th, 2011, 10:26   #52
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When I did the clutch on my V50 I aligned it by eye, went in first time, no dramas. Shop around, my slave/bearing was £78 from Sachs.

There is a chance you could upgrade to self-adjusting clutch if your car already hasn't got one, ask the parts supplier.

Contrary to what garages tell you, special tools are not needed, they make life easier but are not a must have. Even a self adjusting clutch can be reset DIY and installed as normal by gradually tightening the bolts diagonally.
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thanks for the links andy d....the clutch is easier than i was expecting,as i have never done one before.to be on the safe side as 960 kg has said i will buy a tool to line it up.cheers

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960 raises a good point or 3
scantech,,yes i too have seen reports on here of "ah didnt last long" so perhaps parts from them arent that good an idea.
my bad for suggesting parts monster without checking Who's parts they supply.

in 50/50 on the clutch tool, never having used one but can see that they could make the job a lot easier for folk. But most of the cars ive replaced the clutch on were RWD , the only fwd being a older ford escort (the xr3 turbo thing).
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First of all this is only an opinion after reading of peoples experiences with "Scan-Tech" parts and the answer is don`t
these are cheap parts and depending on what they are usually need replacing again in 6 months our Volvo`s deserve better than that and in the end it will cost twice as much with also twice as much effort to replace the item

Regarding the clutch lining tool this is a "must have" as i have spent countless hours trying to line up gearboxes at midnight in the garage once i had the correct tool lining up was a doddle everytime
this is one tool that is not just sold to make a profit but has to be used because that is why it is manufactured
the clutch plate has to be exactly central for the box to line up if it doesn`t you cannot tell which way you have to move the plate so the tool is the easiest and best way, it has to be exact as the gearbox shaft not only lines up on the splines (the easy bit) but it has to then insert itself into the end bush on the engine crankshaft which is the difficult bit if not exactly central
you can buy one from 10 to 25quid even on ebay if you use Scan -Tech parts you will need it again anyway

the reason DWM only paid £70 for his slave cylinder is because it depends which gearbox you have fitted and not the engine, his has the cylinder on top of the box with just the normal clutch release bearing, M5P box.

neanderthal has the clutch release bearing together with the cylinder inside the bell housing with nothing on top this is M56 box
thanks for all the info 960kg,i am definately going to buy a new slave cylinder and a locking tool..much appreciated...will let you all know the outcome...thanks
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in 50/50 on the clutch tool, never having used one but can see that they could make the job a lot easier for folk. But most of the cars ive replaced the clutch on were RWD , the only fwd being a older ford escort (the xr3 turbo thing).
i couldn`t agree with you more andy, believe me i have had my stepmother at 10.30pm down the garage turning the back wheel of my tuned up 1650 Anglia in the early `70`s trying to line the splines up with me trying to get the engine back on the gearbox and i had even used the "tool" for lining up
of course tiredness has a lot to do with it as well, i remember it well, we had a sandwich and a cup of tea ,had another go at 11pm and it went on first go,the engine was hanging at the wrong angle for insertion and through being knackered did not notice it

yes, i have had them go on and lined them up by eye but it is usually just a fluke, ok if you can but if you can`t it is very,very frustrating and the weight of the things really does leave you open to fatigue, and you still have the rest of the assembly to go, it really is worth the £16 where i have just seen a universal clutch tool at Halfrauds
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Or check this for £8.25 at fleabay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toolzone-P...item1c1d9c7a23
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just to update you all...will be getting some money on the 26-27 october to buy the parts i need to fix my volvo.if there is no rain then i will allow 2 days to repair it....thanks

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Any updates?

a black v40 came into the scrapy today...im bagsying the rear calipers and the gearbox with the clutch assemblies once its depoluted...i will check to see if its a dirty weasel (diesel) for Alex's replacement hose on his S40

- important question..are the gearboxes common across the range? i have an m56 box...with a failing second gear on it...new fluids did ought to help :/
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