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Apr 30th, 2017, 19:06 | #1 |
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Stealing a car by holding a bag up to the front door.
http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/29/thieve...-door-6605444/
As somebody with PCC which has keyless entry/start, this has me thinking. My car is parked about 40-50ft away from where the keys are kept and the nearest key to outside the house is currently 6-8ft (this will now change!) I'm assuming the device needs to be within the distance of the key as it would normally be to the car to unlock it for it to work, however the PCC can communicate with the car over quite a long distance so would intercepting these signals be enough to open it with the device? I realise that a Volvo is probably not high up on a car thiefs list and Volvo's security does seem better than the German brands, as BMW have already been on Watchdog over how easy their car were to steal, but it does have me wondering if I need to take extra precautions. |
Apr 30th, 2017, 19:23 | #2 |
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I did see one article saying it would be wise to keep your keys in the fridge as the metal casing shields the signal. Would be a bit safer than the Microwave or oven though!! Not sure if it is genuine advice or tongue in cheek. Iain |
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Apr 30th, 2017, 20:05 | #3 |
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Brings a new meaning to the keyless entry systems - lockless entry systems
Whilst I agree that Volvos won't be high on the list of desirable cars to nick, I fear that their keyless system will have the same vulnerability, I can't see any reason why it shouldn't
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keyless go is not safe in any way. You have 2 options: 1: go to your car dealer and let him remove totally the system, you will need a key after this. The safest way. 2: duckduckgo.com the following: Car Keyless Go Blocking Security Bag. RFID Blocking Bag You have to use it EVERY TIME after leaving the car. They steal a lot of cars with this open system now, and no brand is safe. Your Volvo is in the same way unsafe as Renault, Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes.... there is NO SAFE BRAND that has keyless go as a comfortable gig. The range extender get cheaper and cheaper, in the near future the nasty little criminal bastards will own this too. Save your car, and buy never again a car with this invitation to drive away your car. good luck, Kay |
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Apr 30th, 2017, 20:58 | #5 |
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I'm guessing the guy keeps an amplifier near the door. If the fob is designed to send a continuous signal then this is a flawed design. I think the fob actually should need first to receive a signal from the car when it's in the proximity, then the fob should send a response signal to allow the doors to open and the engine to be started.
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There is nothing that is totally theft proof.
Boffins come out with some new wonderful, crack proof security system, some more clever crook comes up with a system to beat it. Its not just cars that are vunerable but anything of any value.
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Many shops, offices and companies use similar technology to protect hi-value items such as electronic items, alcohol, clothes, etc. All the criminal does is put the item in a foil lined bag and walk out past the reader which can no longer 'see' the item. Want more fun as a criminal, stand in a public place with a similar set of electronics and read the same type of electronics that are in contactless credit and debit cards. Bill the card holder £0.99 and they rarely notice, and by the time they do the account it has gone into has been emptied.
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Surely you should be able to disable keyless starting as it's a stupidly thought out system if this easy to steal.
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I'll start selling little LEAD tins with a lid for all you modern folk ...
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Ok, so the crims can steal your car if it's within range of the key in the house using their 'magic' bag, but once they've got it to their secret lair they're going to be stuffed once they switch the ignition off.
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