Stealing a car by holding a bag up to the front door. - Page 4

GreenBrick · May 10th, 2017, 12:21

I always chuckle when I see a baker's van with "No delicious cakes or buns left in this vehicle overnight".

Not seen a hearse with similar yet!

smj1873 · May 11th, 2017, 09:39

Speaking to one of my friends recently it worried me that he had been advised to keep his keys in plain sight so that if an intruder came into the house they'd easily find them and take the car rather than threaten him with violence for the keys. Housebreakers and car thieves are in essence very afraid when breaking into houses. It would have to be a very organised and violent bunch of thieves to actually confront a homeowner. It just doesn't happen.

AngryScot · May 11th, 2017, 10:27

A lot of them really aren't afraid when breaking into houses, I met plenty in my time in the police that would happily have filled in a homeowner to get the car keys off them. With that said I've never heard the advice about leaving keys in plain sight before.

tt82 · May 11th, 2017, 12:10

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Originally Posted by smj1873

Speaking to one of my friends recently it worried me that he had been advised to keep his keys in plain sight so that if an intruder came into the house they'd easily find them and take the car rather than threaten him with violence for the keys. Housebreakers and car thieves are in essence very afraid when breaking into houses. It would have to be a very organised and violent bunch of thieves to actually confront a homeowner. It just doesn't happen.

It doesn't happen??????

Gun-wielding masked gang threaten man then ransack his house in Chorlton.

This is the same area as the link I posted before where a home owner was killed trying to stop his car being stolen.

Grimble · May 11th, 2017, 12:19

Unfortunately we are not allowed to shoot an intruder on sight, unlike parts of the USA.
Just as well I am never on Jury service for that kind of case.
Its a guaranteed 'not guilty' from me.
Just as it would be if a burglar was caught by the householder and beaten to a pulp.
I would just repeat the argument the do-gooders say about speeding, if you weren't doing it, you wouldn't get caught.

I have lost track of the number of so-called good ideas based on technology that have been dreamt up by geeks with no idea of the impact on the user in the real world.
I'm sure we could start a long thread on that one.

GreenBrick · May 17th, 2017, 12:36

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Originally Posted by tt82

It doesn't happen??????

Gun-wielding masked gang threaten man then ransack his house in Chorlton.

This is the same area as the link I posted before where a home owner was killed trying to stop his car being stolen.

My sister used to live in Chorlton and the kids round there don't even try to hide when breaking into cars, I saw them go round in such a large group, you wouldn't go near them.

She had 4 house break-ins and 2 car break-ins in one year, she quickly moved again out to the country where you don't need to lock your doors even. The insurance chap she spoke to (on many occasions) said just get everything well insured and don't become attached to stuff. Easier said than done, I think.

tt82 · Apr 5th, 2018, 16:37

The attack on keyless vehicles continues - https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...dvice-14496158

I don't want a steering wheel lock as they may damage the leather on the steering wheel. Looks preferable to having no car though.

Marty Dolomite · Apr 5th, 2018, 20:05

I can see a few car dealers getting targeted soon

Dippydog · Apr 5th, 2018, 20:50

Many car dealers though keep the keys for their stock in large metal key safes with a combination type lock on them so the low lifes would have to target them when keys are being used for test drives/moving stock about.Of course at the end of the day it doesn't really matter what you do if they want it they'll find a way to take it,all you can do is make it as awkward as possible so hopefully they'll move on to an easier "mark".

volvo always · Apr 5th, 2018, 22:31

Just make sure your neighbours car is more appealing to the lowlife.

My 940 estate would probably be good for a ram raid, but locked in at night at the Marina residents car park with CCTV.

UPVC windows and doors can be awful for security as the cheap locks can be snapped off in seconds. Buy a BSI kite marked door lock that cant be snapped.
Something like this.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Avocet-AB...%3D&rmvSB=true
If you have glass doors don't have toughened glass as standard insist on laminated glazing! I hate toughened glass as no security! Brick or plant pot through your glazed doors and in goes the burglar!

https://thecrimepreventionwebsite.co...stic-security/

James

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Grimble Grimble Last Online: Feb 4th, 2019 17:54 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Staffordshire	Unfortunately we are not allowed to shoot an intruder on sight, unlike parts of the USA. Just as well I am never on Jury service for that kind of case. Its a guaranteed 'not guilty' from me. Just as it would be if a burglar was caught by the householder and beaten to a pulp. I would just repeat the argument the do-gooders say about speeding, if you weren't doing it, you wouldn't get caught. I have lost track of the number of so-called good ideas based on technology that have been dreamt up by geeks with no idea of the impact on the user in the real world. I'm sure we could start a long thread on that one. __________________ 2012 XC60 D4 SE Lux Nav

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tt82 Forum Support Team Last Online: Nov 28th, 2022 17:33 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Here.... obviously!	The attack on keyless vehicles continues - https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...dvice-14496158 I don't want a steering wheel lock as they may damage the leather on the steering wheel. Looks preferable to having no car though. __________________ The more people I meet, the more I like my dog! 2009 V70 D5 R-Design - Jeade'en

Apr 5th, 2018, 22:31	#40
volvo always Premier Member Last Online: Today 12:31 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Midlands.	Just make sure your neighbours car is more appealing to the lowlife. My 940 estate would probably be good for a ram raid, but locked in at night at the Marina residents car park with CCTV. UPVC windows and doors can be awful for security as the cheap locks can be snapped off in seconds. Buy a BSI kite marked door lock that cant be snapped. Something like this. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Avocet-AB...%3D&rmvSB=true If you have glass doors don't have toughened glass as standard insist on laminated glazing! I hate toughened glass as no security! Brick or plant pot through your glazed doors and in goes the burglar! https://thecrimepreventionwebsite.co...stic-security/ James Last edited by volvo always; Apr 5th, 2018 at 23:02.

May 11th, 2017, 09:39	#32
smj1873 Junior Member Last Online: Jul 19th, 2018 13:17 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: East Kilbride	Speaking to one of my friends recently it worried me that he had been advised to keep his keys in plain sight so that if an intruder came into the house they'd easily find them and take the car rather than threaten him with violence for the keys. Housebreakers and car thieves are in essence very afraid when breaking into houses. It would have to be a very organised and violent bunch of thieves to actually confront a homeowner. It just doesn't happen.

May 11th, 2017, 10:27	#33
AngryScot Member Last Online: Jun 28th, 2017 22:39 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Scotland	A lot of them really aren't afraid when breaking into houses, I met plenty in my time in the police that would happily have filled in a homeowner to get the car keys off them. With that said I've never heard the advice about leaving keys in plain sight before.

Apr 5th, 2018, 20:05	#38
Marty Dolomite Premier Member Last Online: Apr 24th, 2024 12:48 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southampton	I can see a few car dealers getting targeted soon

Apr 5th, 2018, 20:50	#39
Dippydog Premier Member Last Online: Apr 25th, 2024 17:55 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: S****horpe	Many car dealers though keep the keys for their stock in large metal key safes with a combination type lock on them so the low lifes would have to target them when keys are being used for test drives/moving stock about.Of course at the end of the day it doesn't really matter what you do if they want it they'll find a way to take it,all you can do is make it as awkward as possible so hopefully they'll move on to an easier "mark".

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