Other XC90 Problem: - Swirl Flaps

Ross · Oct 16th, 2008, 10:37

Hi there, new member here. My 06 06 XC90D5 185 requires new swirl flaps so i am told by my dealer. cost of replacement of 2 parts £1.60 and £1.95 (he showed me the estimate breakdown) is over £525! he reckons to get to the worn parts (£4 tops) they have to remove fuel lines etc and replace over £200 of new bits that they took off. he reckons that this is due to a volvo revision to the parts that make the new replacement 'kit' so expensive. i can't be alone in thinking this is madness - anyone out there had swirl flaps replaced for less? if so please let me know - cheers ross 07850 507723

30yearvolvoman · Oct 16th, 2008, 16:53

....06 should be under warranty.

Ross · Oct 16th, 2008, 17:53

unfortunately not with 104K showing - ross

Clan · Oct 16th, 2008, 19:21

The swirl throttles are a job to get at ,the injectors and top cam cover have to come off , you cannot re use injector clamps or pipes . There is a cost saving to be made with the injector fitting parts , Volvo do a kit for about £80 . There is still 3 hours labour to account for though .

ted striker · Apr 9th, 2014, 10:34

Reading the above, this is similar to something thats been reported to me by Dinnages in Brighton yesterday.

They said: "Swirl flaps leaking, and link rod will not swirl flap motor, new link rod and swirl flaps needed"

If I take the decor cover off the top of the engine I can see the leak, but no consumption noted, engine running fine, rod intact, no messages. Yet.

My question if anyone has a moment is, how urgent is this to fix, when it fails is it an issue (bits of flaps in combustion chamber or just limp mode w/message)

Thanks

ted striker · Apr 9th, 2014, 19:28

OK, this is interesting (for me at least) had a moment to myself and popped bonnet on the car, took the decor cover off to have a look how severe the reported leak is.

Anyway it appears that the swirl rod was unattached to it's engine side, I can't think it's detached by itself as it's undamaged, it appears to have been disconnected.

Do these rods detach themselves when they break? or do we think it's not been reattached after the mechanic reported it to the service manager?

ted striker · Apr 9th, 2014, 20:37

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zvfijil19seaiyj/DSC_2093.jpg

Should be an image there...

paulodipoggio · Apr 9th, 2014, 20:40

I've got similar problem.
Plastic flaps cost a few quid to replace, but was told by service manager (now a friend!) that to remedy problem if it happens again is hours of labour and lots of expensive pipes and wires. Probably £500 and that might be on "mates rates".
Google swirl flaps or search on here as I'm sure there's a thread about a fix involving drilling a small hole and inserting a metal pin. Might even be a Volvo "workaround" repair kit?

ted striker · Apr 9th, 2014, 20:44

So Paul, is your car working fine despite your it presumably needing the work?

Thanks

paulodipoggio · Apr 10th, 2014, 08:54

The engine warning light came on a few weeks ago and some loss of power but fine ever since, no lights. Think it must stick occasionally.
Going to get it fixed before my long summer journeys though

Oct 16th, 2008, 10:37	#1
Ross New Member Last Online: Oct 16th, 2008 18:03 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kent	Swirl Flaps Hi there, new member here. My 06 06 XC90D5 185 requires new swirl flaps so i am told by my dealer. cost of replacement of 2 parts £1.60 and £1.95 (he showed me the estimate breakdown) is over £525! he reckons to get to the worn parts (£4 tops) they have to remove fuel lines etc and replace over £200 of new bits that they took off. he reckons that this is due to a volvo revision to the parts that make the new replacement 'kit' so expensive. i can't be alone in thinking this is madness - anyone out there had swirl flaps replaced for less? if so please let me know - cheers ross 07850 507723

Oct 16th, 2008, 19:21	#4
Clan Experienced Member Last Online: Yesterday 23:45 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: L/H side	The swirl throttles are a job to get at ,the injectors and top cam cover have to come off , you cannot re use injector clamps or pipes . There is a cost saving to be made with the injector fitting parts , Volvo do a kit for about £80 . There is still 3 hours labour to account for though . __________________ My comments are only based on my opinions and vast experience .

Apr 9th, 2014, 10:34	#5
ted striker Junior Member Last Online: Aug 15th, 2021 08:30 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Brighton	Swirl flap issue.. Reading the above, this is similar to something thats been reported to me by Dinnages in Brighton yesterday. They said: "Swirl flaps leaking, and link rod will not swirl flap motor, new link rod and swirl flaps needed" If I take the decor cover off the top of the engine I can see the leak, but no consumption noted, engine running fine, rod intact, no messages. Yet. My question if anyone has a moment is, how urgent is this to fix, when it fails is it an issue (bits of flaps in combustion chamber or just limp mode w/message) Thanks

Apr 9th, 2014, 20:37	#7
ted striker Junior Member Last Online: Aug 15th, 2021 08:30 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Brighton	https://www.dropbox.com/s/zvfijil19seaiyj/DSC_2093.jpg Should be an image there... Last edited by ted striker; Apr 9th, 2014 at 20:40.

Oct 16th, 2008, 16:53	#2
30yearvolvoman Junior Member Last Online: Jun 26th, 2009 16:31 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lincolnshire	....06 should be under warranty.

Oct 16th, 2008, 17:53	#3
Ross New Member Last Online: Oct 16th, 2008 18:03 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kent	unfortunately not with 104K showing - ross

Apr 9th, 2014, 19:28	#6
ted striker Junior Member Last Online: Aug 15th, 2021 08:30 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Brighton	OK, this is interesting (for me at least) had a moment to myself and popped bonnet on the car, took the decor cover off to have a look how severe the reported leak is. Anyway it appears that the swirl rod was unattached to it's engine side, I can't think it's detached by itself as it's undamaged, it appears to have been disconnected. Do these rods detach themselves when they break? or do we think it's not been reattached after the mechanic reported it to the service manager?

Apr 9th, 2014, 20:40	#8
paulodipoggio Member Last Online: Yesterday 19:00 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: birmingham	I've got similar problem. Plastic flaps cost a few quid to replace, but was told by service manager (now a friend!) that to remedy problem if it happens again is hours of labour and lots of expensive pipes and wires. Probably £500 and that might be on "mates rates". Google swirl flaps or search on here as I'm sure there's a thread about a fix involving drilling a small hole and inserting a metal pin. Might even be a Volvo "workaround" repair kit?

Apr 9th, 2014, 20:44	#9
ted striker Junior Member Last Online: Aug 15th, 2021 08:30 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Brighton	So Paul, is your car working fine despite your it presumably needing the work? Thanks

Apr 10th, 2014, 08:54	#10
paulodipoggio Member Last Online: Yesterday 19:00 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: birmingham	The engine warning light came on a few weeks ago and some loss of power but fine ever since, no lights. Think it must stick occasionally. Going to get it fixed before my long summer journeys though

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