240 rust question

Challo · May 15th, 2020, 07:10

Hi All,

I have seen a 90 240 GL 2.3 on ebay for 2500 which looks clean, but the owner says it has some rust around the windscreen cowl area. He sent through some photos and the rust looks to be on the firewall. Is this a potential nightmare to solve? Engine out job? Or can it be left?

Thanks
Chris

mentepazza · May 15th, 2020, 07:38

It all depends if you work on your car or not.
You’ll have to remove all the trims and accessories in order to understand the extent of the issue.
And you really want to know what is the damage water made behind it.
2/3 Hours of work. Might need engine out (but that is a 2 hourS job). You ll need to cut and weld after.

grumpydad · May 15th, 2020, 09:05

Hi
quick run
dont touch it

Challo · May 15th, 2020, 09:23

Thanks. I think its one to be avoided.

Bit more work then I want to get involved in

DW42 · May 17th, 2020, 00:40

I've never seen rust there on a 240 -- often it's around the windscreen. I wonder if that was a result of letting the drainage get blocked up for a long time?

230ina245 · May 17th, 2020, 08:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by DW42

I've never seen rust there on a 240 -- often it's around the windscreen. I wonder if that was a result of letting the drainage get blocked up for a long time?

Mine had a bit of surface rust there when I bought it, but the soundproofing foam stuff had been removed. I think the rust starts under the rubber lip by the bonnet & then the water is free to get behind the soundproofing foam.
Tim

Challo · May 20th, 2020, 16:24

The rest of the car looks clean, but it was the rust that was a concern and due to the placement whether it would kill the car or could be a bodge job for a number of years.

It has the 2.3 engine but mated to the auto box which was another thing that wasn’t ideal as preferred a manual.

In no rush, so will give it a few weeks and see if the restrictions get released and I can go and visit it.

DW42 · May 21st, 2020, 07:32

The AW70 auto box works well with the 2.3 engine. If you want a firmer feel to auto gear changes it can be swapped out for an AW71L.

john.wigley · May 21st, 2020, 10:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by DW42

The AW70 auto box works well with the 2.3 engine. If you want a firmer feel to auto gear changes it can be swapped out for an AW71L.

I would agree with 'DW42'. The Auto vs Manual choice is a very personal decision, but as 'DW42' says the low down torque characteristics of the 2.3 (and, to a lesser extent, the 2.1) motor ideally suit the auto 'box.

Four out of five of our 240s* were automatics, all four of our 740s, our 940 and now my V70 is likewise. *The odd one out was my 245GLT, which was MOD, but also a very 'drivable car.

Regards, John.

Stephen Edwin · May 21st, 2020, 10:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by john.wigley

I would agree with 'DW42'. The Auto vs Manual choice is a very personal decision, but as 'DW42' says the low down torque characteristics of the 2.3 (and, to a lesser extent, the 2.1) motor ideally suit the auto 'box.

Four out of five of our 240s* were automatics, all four of our 740s, our 940 and now my V70 is likewise. *The odd one out was my 245GLT, which was MOD, but also a very 'drivable car.

Regards, John.

Yes that is good.

My only auto was a 16 valve 2.3 740 and it served me very well indeed. I wish I still had it today.

.

May 17th, 2020, 00:40	#5
DW42 Senior Member Last Online: Oct 9th, 2022 04:41 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Currumbin, Queensland	I've never seen rust there on a 240 -- often it's around the windscreen. I wonder if that was a result of letting the drainage get blocked up for a long time? __________________ Present: 1990 240GL saloon, 1992 240 estate Past: 1988 240GL; 1971 144DL; 1972 145DL

May 21st, 2020, 07:32	#8
DW42 Senior Member Last Online: Oct 9th, 2022 04:41 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Currumbin, Queensland	The AW70 auto box works well with the 2.3 engine. If you want a firmer feel to auto gear changes it can be swapped out for an AW71L. __________________ Present: 1990 240GL saloon, 1992 240 estate Past: 1988 240GL; 1971 144DL; 1972 145DL

May 15th, 2020, 07:38	#2
mentepazza Member Last Online: Apr 21st, 2024 21:10 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Glasgow	It all depends if you work on your car or not. You’ll have to remove all the trims and accessories in order to understand the extent of the issue. And you really want to know what is the damage water made behind it. 2/3 Hours of work. Might need engine out (but that is a 2 hourS job). You ll need to cut and weld after.

May 15th, 2020, 09:05	#3
grumpydad Senior Member Last Online: Today 08:47 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: eastsussex	Hi quick run dont touch it

May 15th, 2020, 09:23	#4
Challo Senior Member Last Online: Mar 10th, 2024 20:33 Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Reading	Thanks. I think its one to be avoided. Bit more work then I want to get involved in

May 20th, 2020, 16:24	#7
Challo Senior Member Last Online: Mar 10th, 2024 20:33 Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Reading	The rest of the car looks clean, but it was the rust that was a concern and due to the placement whether it would kill the car or could be a bodge job for a number of years. It has the 2.3 engine but mated to the auto box which was another thing that wasn’t ideal as preferred a manual. In no rush, so will give it a few weeks and see if the restrictions get released and I can go and visit it.

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