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Aux belt (s) 2L petrol - How easy to replace

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Old Jan 12th, 2022, 10:35   #21
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Old Jan 28th, 2022, 22:24   #22
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Hi, first time posting but as I just successfully changed the belts in question, I thought I would add an explanation in case it can help someone else in the future.
My car is a C30 2.0 petol Rdesign 2012, a lot of the videos I was seeing on YouTube had different auxiliary belt setups to my car.

The belts I have just put on where as follows:
5pk 705 (shorter belt to AC compressor)
6pk 1249 (longer serpentine belt)

I know other people have mentioned you can now get a replacement kit from Volvo that changes the static tensioner on the longer belt for a sprung one as well as the belts. This would likely make fitting much easier. I did not do this I just changed both belts like for like so I’ll explain some tips to make it easier.

For the serpentine belt I fed it on to all the pulleys first, but the tensioner. Then with the tensioner pulley unbolted I fixed it to the belt (it’s a tight fit), then managed to thread in the lower studded bolt fully and tightened using the hex head. The tensioner needs to be at an angle to do this. Then used a podger in the hole located in the top of the tensioner to pivot the tensioner in line with the other two holes. I think this is probably the original intended method and doing it this way is not that hard. I struggled for a while trying to Jimmy the belt on using screwdrivers which did not work at all as it is very tight.

For the shorter belt I did have a tool borrowed from a friend that I’ll include in photos but if not the code on the tool says 07740000 but I’m not sure if it’s the specific one for Volvo cars or a more general one but it worked for me. But basically I cranked the belt round onto the drive pulley by turning the drive with a ratchet (22mm socket). I also removed the cover from around ac compressor pulley, this likely isn’t necessary but it’s not hard to take off and refit after.

One more tip I was told about, was to remove, or at least loosen the spark plugs to make turning the drive pulley easier. I changed all the plugs just because I don’t know if they had even been changed.

I will add some photos. Hopefully this explains better what I am trying to say. Hope this helps someone someday.

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Old Feb 9th, 2022, 13:25   #23
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Having done this job last week, the big belt is easy to do, but doing the AC belt is a pain in the ass.
I just unbolted the AC pump (disconnecting the electrical connector and undoing the pipe mounting braket in front) to get enough slack in the belt to release it and to tension it I just lined up the AC pump as best I could, tensioning the belt by tightening up the compressor mounting bolts.
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Old Dec 21st, 2022, 00:10   #24
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The tensioner is from the ford parts bin, shared with the focus as a lot of the parts on these cars are.. pic of the gates part attached

these are the gates belt part nos (for a 2007 engine)

6PK1305 (Longer belt)

5PK705SF (short a/c pump streeetch belt)

Curious that there must have been a fixed tensioner according to vida, has anyone ever seen one ? seems like a bad idea to me !

As others have said the aux belt is a pretty easy one as the tensioner is very accessible (unlike some engines) and doesnt need any special tools to release it..

Has anyone had experience of doing the stretch belt, there seem to be some tools but wonder what real life experience of getting one off is like ..
Does that Gates kit come with the longer bolts and a new idler pulley or is there not a second pulley?
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Old Dec 21st, 2022, 07:41   #25
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Volvo do a kit with everything you need https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321680467...mis&media=COPY
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Old Dec 21st, 2022, 10:28   #26
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Volvo do a kit with everything you need https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321680467...mis&media=COPY
thanks, just ordered it on the assumption that that is the cause of my engine noise when cold.
Any tips on fitting the air con belt without the special tool?
I'd be more inclined to pay a member on here to help me fit it all. I'm OK with repairs, can do a full service, repaired brake calipers, changed discs and pads etc but I've never attempted any belt systems.
I'm located in Biggleswade if anyone is reasonably close by and could lend a hand for some cash
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Old Dec 21st, 2022, 15:41   #27
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thanks, just ordered it on the assumption that that is the cause of my engine noise when cold.
Any tips on fitting the air con belt without the special tool?
I'd be more inclined to pay a member on here to help me fit it all. I'm OK with repairs, can do a full service, repaired brake calipers, changed discs and pads etc but I've never attempted any belt systems.
I'm located in Biggleswade if anyone is reasonably close by and could lend a hand for some cash
You can get the kit slightly cheaper by phoning FRF Volvo in Swansea and quoting code "C3" FYI.

I have the tool for the bottom belt, but someone in another thread said it didn't work for them and they had to loosen the pulley and move it back to get the belt on.. but we'll see..

I'll be doing this job on my S40 over the Christmas break in Hertfordshire. If it goes OK on my car I don't mind coming over to help (if time permits) but after the 7th of January I'll be back up to Scotland. At the very least I can give you some tips if timing doesn't work out.
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You can get the kit slightly cheaper by phoning FRF Volvo in Swansea and quoting code "C3" FYI.

I have the tool for the bottom belt, but someone in another thread said it didn't work for them and they had to loosen the pulley and move it back to get the belt on.. but we'll see..

I'll be doing this job on my S40 over the Christmas break in Hertfordshire. If it goes OK on my car I don't mind coming over to help (if time permits) but after the 7th of January I'll be back up to Scotland. At the very least I can give you some tips if timing doesn't work out.
I'd prefer to come to you if possible since all my tools are at my parents place in Leicestershire, I have nothing on me in Biggleswade. I don't mind paying for your time and help
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I'd prefer to come to you if possible since all my tools are at my parents place in Leicestershire, I have nothing on me in Biggleswade. I don't mind paying for your time and help
I'm sure just some beer would suffice :P I'll send you a PM mate.
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Okay... me and Acuity30 have managed to do this with 2 people on his car and I managed it on my own, on my car beforehand..

Yeah the bottom belt was a real PITA but a lot easier with 2 people and once I'd got the nack of how to get it to work with the tool..

Things you need:
  • Long belt tool with a 14mm socket or open end (to push back the automatic tensioner)
  • 22mm socket to turn the crank shaft
  • T25 socket for the wheel arch
  • 10mm socket / spanner for the wheel arch, lower belt metal cover and tensioner
  • 12mm socket / spanner if you have the manual tensioner at the moment
  • An extra M8 nut to get the stud out if you currently have the manual tensioner
  • Tool for the bottom belt

Basically it's all fine as per the instructions but to get the tool to work with the bottom belt is a pain but do-able.. The problem is the power steering lines stop it working nicely like you see in the photos, it doesn't clear them and you need to unclip them from each other and sort of push the tool against the crankshaft pulley and up with the belt as you crank it over clockwise, keeping pressure on it as you turn over the engine is the trick to get it to work (this is why it's a lot easier with 2 people). If you don't keep pressure on it the belt will just keep slipping over it and the tool won't move with the belt and pulley, you sort of need to pull the power steering lines towards you slightly as you do it so they don't block the tool moving round. Eventually it goes on, if it isn't sitting right on the bottom AC pulley after getting it on the top, crank it round another time, you can also put the tool onto the bottom pulley at this point to seat onto the bottom pulley properly.

Quite a PITA but it's doable.
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