TD04L-14T Hybrid Turbo New - Page 3

tommy t4 · Dec 19th, 2012, 07:44

Oh sure, well thought they would have put bigger exhaust housing on it aswell bit pointless?!?

mitchyboy01 · Dec 19th, 2012, 14:54

Im not 100% but i'm pretty sure the only mod was to fit a 16G compressor wheel and maybe bore out the compressor housing for it to fit. Can't remember anyone mentioning that the hotside was changed at all.

tommy t4 · Dec 19th, 2012, 15:15

Damn bet that gets hot, could have just got chra catridge and done it yourself by the sounds of it.

smithy · Dec 20th, 2012, 01:05

On my mates phase 2 s40 t4 he had a 14/16t hybrid that we fitted onto his car and we put the car on the same rollers as the stock 14t turbo and he made the same power at the same boost.so now we fitted an 18t off the v70r and what a difference and it will be on the rollers soon .but I will say this it goes lick the clappers now .

tommy t4 · Dec 20th, 2012, 09:35

Yea that doest surprise me, bit pointless if the exhaust is still restricted, 18t and 19t much better. Smithy make sure you let us know what he gets on the rollers please.

smithy · Dec 20th, 2012, 22:15

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Originally Posted by tommy t4

Yea that doest surprise me, bit pointless if the exhaust is still restricted, 18t and 19t much better. Smithy make sure you let us know what he gets on the rollers please.

Yes mate will do

mitchyboy01 · Dec 21st, 2012, 00:48

The only reason to fit a hybrid is so its a straight bolt on as some people seem don't want to do the very basic mods needed to fit a decent turbo. The hybrid does support slightly more power as seen from the graph, but imo its not worth it. Once you have an adapted manifold its problem solved anyway. You just have to spend a few a quid getting the DP modded and slightly fettling one of the lines to the turbo. It would still work out cheaper anyway than buying a hybrid. I dont know why more people don't have 16, 18, 19T, K24 etc. Its a pretty simple job. Running a bigger turbo at low boost will also see lower IAT's whilst still running more power and torque than a stock 14T could ever get to. Rod bending may be an issue if boosting high but, if you have a phase 2, mapping is not really a problem now either. If you are happy with 240bhp and 300lbft stick with a 14T, if not do the neccesary mods to fit a good sized turbo imo.

gmain1967 · Dec 21st, 2012, 09:56

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Originally Posted by mitchyboy01

The only reason to fit a hybrid is so its a straight bolt on as some people seem don't want to do the very basic mods needed to fit a decent turbo. The hybrid does support slightly more power as seen from the graph, but imo its not worth it. Once you have an adapted manifold its problem solved anyway. You just have to spend a few a quid getting the DP modded and slightly fettling one of the lines to the turbo. It would still work out cheaper anyway than buying a hybrid. I dont know why more people don't have 16, 18, 19T, K24 etc. Its a pretty simple job. Running a bigger turbo at low boost will also see lower IAT's whilst still running more power and torque than a stock 14T could ever get to. Rod bending may be an issue if boosting high but, if you have a phase 2, mapping is not really a problem now either. If you are happy with 240bhp and 300lbft stick with a 14T, if not do the neccesary mods to fit a good sized turbo imo.

Each to their own Mitch. What cost would you put on getting a turbo from your list, getting a manifold amended/fabricated, modding the DP (I don't have the kit to work with stainless), sorting out the lines, changing injectors to suit greater fuelling needs etc?

tommy t4 · Dec 21st, 2012, 12:09

Well grant from what I've seen on hybrids your looking at between 600-1000+ for a new one, with that kinda money you could defo buy a 5cyl mani habit modified buy a 19t etc and injectors and get a dp fabricated, and still be left 300+ which could get remap or piggyback. Or even start fully forging the engine etc....

gmain1967 · Dec 21st, 2012, 13:23

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Originally Posted by tommy t4

Well grant from what I've seen on hybrids your looking at between 600-1000+ for a new one, with that kinda money you could defo buy a 5cyl mani habit modified buy a 19t etc and injectors and get a dp fabricated, and still be left 300+ which could get remap or piggyback. Or even start fully forging the engine etc....

Not sure where you're looking, but 19T hybrid available for £420 new delivered. Less if you do what I did and found a barely used second hand one....

Dec 19th, 2012, 14:54	#22
mitchyboy01 Premier Member Last Online: Oct 25th, 2020 06:40 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Dover	Im not 100% but i'm pretty sure the only mod was to fit a 16G compressor wheel and maybe bore out the compressor housing for it to fit. Can't remember anyone mentioning that the hotside was changed at all. __________________ 855R, Standard, Manual, Black Interior. Nice. Stage 5 Saab 9-3 Aero V6 2.8T. 372bhp. 677nm.

Dec 21st, 2012, 00:48	#27
mitchyboy01 Premier Member Last Online: Oct 25th, 2020 06:40 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Dover	The only reason to fit a hybrid is so its a straight bolt on as some people seem don't want to do the very basic mods needed to fit a decent turbo. The hybrid does support slightly more power as seen from the graph, but imo its not worth it. Once you have an adapted manifold its problem solved anyway. You just have to spend a few a quid getting the DP modded and slightly fettling one of the lines to the turbo. It would still work out cheaper anyway than buying a hybrid. I dont know why more people don't have 16, 18, 19T, K24 etc. Its a pretty simple job. Running a bigger turbo at low boost will also see lower IAT's whilst still running more power and torque than a stock 14T could ever get to. Rod bending may be an issue if boosting high but, if you have a phase 2, mapping is not really a problem now either. If you are happy with 240bhp and 300lbft stick with a 14T, if not do the neccesary mods to fit a good sized turbo imo. __________________ 855R, Standard, Manual, Black Interior. Nice. Stage 5 Saab 9-3 Aero V6 2.8T. 372bhp. 677nm. Last edited by mitchyboy01; Dec 21st, 2012 at 01:00.

Dec 19th, 2012, 07:44	#21
tommy t4 Premier Member Last Online: Jul 10th, 2021 22:47 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: gravesend kent View Photos By: tommy t4	Oh sure, well thought they would have put bigger exhaust housing on it aswell bit pointless?!?

Dec 19th, 2012, 15:15	#23
tommy t4 Premier Member Last Online: Jul 10th, 2021 22:47 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: gravesend kent View Photos By: tommy t4	Damn bet that gets hot, could have just got chra catridge and done it yourself by the sounds of it.

Dec 20th, 2012, 01:05	#24
smithy VOC Member Last Online: Mar 18th, 2018 19:03 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: birmingham	On my mates phase 2 s40 t4 he had a 14/16t hybrid that we fitted onto his car and we put the car on the same rollers as the stock 14t turbo and he made the same power at the same boost.so now we fitted an 18t off the v70r and what a difference and it will be on the rollers soon .but I will say this it goes lick the clappers now .

Dec 20th, 2012, 09:35	#25
tommy t4 Premier Member Last Online: Jul 10th, 2021 22:47 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: gravesend kent View Photos By: tommy t4	Yea that doest surprise me, bit pointless if the exhaust is still restricted, 18t and 19t much better. Smithy make sure you let us know what he gets on the rollers please.

Dec 21st, 2012, 12:09	#29
tommy t4 Premier Member Last Online: Jul 10th, 2021 22:47 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: gravesend kent View Photos By: tommy t4	Well grant from what I've seen on hybrids your looking at between 600-1000+ for a new one, with that kinda money you could defo buy a 5cyl mani habit modified buy a 19t etc and injectors and get a dp fabricated, and still be left 300+ which could get remap or piggyback. Or even start fully forging the engine etc....

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