Volvo Community Forum. The Forums of the Volvo Owners Club

Forum Rules Volvo Owners Club About VOC Volvo Gallery Links Volvo History Volvo Press
Go Back   Volvo Owners Club Forum > "Technical Topics" > Diesel Engines

Notices

Diesel Engines A forum dedicated to diesel engines fitted to Volvo cars. See the first post in this forum for a list of the diesel engines.

Information
  • VOC Members: There is no login facility using your VOC membership number or the details from page 3 of the club magazine. You need to register in the normal way
  • AOL Customers: Make sure you check the 'Remember me' check box otherwise the AOL system may log you out during the session. This is a known issue with AOL.
  • AOL, Yahoo and Plus.net users. Forum owners such as us are finding that AOL, Yahoo and Plus.net are blocking a lot of email generated from forums. This may mean your registration activation and other emails will not get to you, or they may appear in your spam mailbox

Thread Informations

2003 S60 D5 Problem

Views : 939

Replies : 9

Users Viewing This Thread :  

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Feb 13th, 2020, 18:01   #1
Ian 67
mr
 

Last Online: Feb 26th, 2020 23:00
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: middlesbrough
Cool 2003 S60 D5 Problem

At the beginning of Jan 20 my partner ran out of fuel in our old S60 2003 D5 at 210 000 miles. When I refueled it it was difficult to start. A few days later a problem developed a loss of power during acceleration, this was immediately followed by the warning on the dashboard saying engine system service urgent, the car would only give limited revs and hence limited speed. Once I could safely stop the car I turned the ignition off and back on. Fault and warning disappeared.It did this on every journey for a few days so changed the fuel filter although the one I took off was only a few months old.The problem continued before I came to total stop and could not get it started again.
The RAC came confirmed a low pressure in the rail and that the low pressure pump in the tank had gone.
The vehicle was recovered and the pump replaced drove fine for a few days then same problem occurred. Would not exceed 2500 rpm and kept stopping I could restart the car the fault message would clear but soon as I tried to accelerate same issue "ENGINE SERVICE URGENT" car comes to a stop.
RAC called and confirm again Low pressure and pump not working all in less than 10 days. Garage replace pump a BOCH unit and I pick up the car. However, on the journey from the garage problem was back. It grew more frequent and ended up with the car stalling over 30 times during a 10 mile journey.
Returned to garage and vehicle plugged in to diagnostics issues displayed were Air mass sensor error, slight fuel system leak , and turbo solenoid issue.
MAF sensor replaced but problem continues.The car is not drivable at this time. I did not get the codes from garage at time. Any one have same issue or may know how this can be resolved.
Ian 67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 13th, 2020, 22:24   #2
Dastardly Diesel
Senior Member
 

Last Online: May 14th, 2020 13:58
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: The countryside
Default

The lift pumps in the tank are liquid cooled and this don't like being run in a low tank as they then run hot. If the pump goes badly that can contaminate the fuel lines with debris and even damage the high pressure pump.
Dastardly Diesel is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Dastardly Diesel For This Useful Post:
Old Feb 20th, 2020, 10:35   #3
5cilinder
Premier Member
 
5cilinder's Avatar
 

Last Online: Apr 16th, 2024 21:09
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Groningen
Default

Partner?
5cilinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 20th, 2020, 16:45   #4
Ian 67
mr
 

Last Online: Feb 26th, 2020 23:00
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: middlesbrough
Default

lol yes its true was girlfriend ...... still have the same problem have codes now 6805 boost pressure control and 1200 IAT signal to high.
Could be boost sensor? or boost control valve?
Ian 67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 21st, 2020, 11:48   #5
5cilinder
Premier Member
 
5cilinder's Avatar
 

Last Online: Apr 16th, 2024 21:09
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Groningen
Default

Check the fuel filter for contamination of the faulty pump or other filth (or replace it anyway)and make sure every other parallel problem of faultcodes is resolved
And check the fuelpressure of the liftpump alone.

Boost pressure can be anything from lack of vacuum on the vnt to leaking intercooler or leaking rubber from the silencer.
intercoolers can be checked with a plugged can in one side and another in the other connected hose with a drinkflask cap wich a bicycle pump with manometer is connected
Also when there is a major boostleak the maf sensor throws a code because of the mismatch in measured airmass (more measured than used)
In that case the airmass meter isnt the cause but the symptom and not faulty
And check the sensors and connections with a multimeter first

Last edited by 5cilinder; Feb 21st, 2020 at 12:04.
5cilinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 26th, 2020, 12:25   #6
Ian 67
mr
 

Last Online: Feb 26th, 2020 23:00
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: middlesbrough
Default D5

Well checked most things but could not find the cause, vacuum was good pipes all intact. problem became worse, car would only run for 30 sec and stop.
Local Volvo specialist has had car for couple of days.

High pressure pump would only run for a min before stopping. Though it was the sender/control unit. However direct live feed into pump still would only run for a min ad stop so some issue with the pump.
Also the control unit itself is not working as it should. So quoted new pump £400 plus fitting etc and New sender/ control unit for one of these £788.
Looks like my poor Volvo is done after driving it for 13yrs and 200k.
Ian 67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 26th, 2020, 13:45   #7
Ian 67
mr
 

Last Online: Feb 26th, 2020 23:00
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: middlesbrough
Red face

been to the garage and spoke with the mechanic there. Its not the High pressure pump, its the in tank pump that keeps stopping even with a direct feed. The control unit is in fact the CEM fuse box that is not sending t the pump. They have tried changing the relays but with no result.
I am now thinking just get CEM module from ebay and change pump??

Might work
Ian 67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 26th, 2020, 14:43   #8
5cilinder
Premier Member
 
5cilinder's Avatar
 

Last Online: Apr 16th, 2024 21:09
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Groningen
Default

Dude ask your volvo dealer they clearly know best with the flowcharts en hefty bills
5cilinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 26th, 2020, 14:54   #9
5cilinder
Premier Member
 
5cilinder's Avatar
 

Last Online: Apr 16th, 2024 21:09
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Groningen
Default

You checked "most things"
It seems like erratic trial and error ,
Everything needs to be checked in a methodicly manor Electric fuelpump, mechanical liftpump check the pressure of both with a manometer , check the fuelfilter and inspect for metal debris in filter.... check the fuelpressure regulator and pressure sensor on the fuelrail both on resistance and the connector/wires
If thats all ok check the fuel corrections on the injectors .
Good luck
5cilinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 26th, 2020, 16:38   #10
reggit
Premier Member
 

Last Online: Yesterday 20:01
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Preston
Default

My in-tank pump failed intermittently and gradually got worse. It would log a low fuel pressure code (can't remember what off hand, but it'll be on the forum somewhere), however the code wasn't stored after ignition off, it had to be read whilst in 'limp mode' with the fault active.

I put a brand new pump in (about £300 a few years ago) and the car was transformed, however you need to be absolutely certain it is the fault before chucking this much money at it.

It's in the realms of a DIY job, although a little smelly it's not hard once you get the tank caps opened. Run the fuel tank as low as possible though to make the job easier if DIY'ing.
__________________
2009 Volvo V70 D5 (Polestar 225bhp) r-design 180,000 miles
reggit is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 15:15.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.