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Old Jun 20th, 2018, 16:52   #21
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Do you mean just in general, or do you know something about one of the ones above? I’m most interested in the red one.

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Just meant in general...there s always cars coming onto the marketplace. bide your time...you will hopefully get the right one eventually.
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2129 pages views, 122 watchers, Im looking forward to the end of the auction, could be exciting - dont miss out!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113063948476
Thanks, a little biased though me thinks lol.... yes good luck with that, if collection wasn’t such an issue with that I would have had it! Thanks
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The red one on ebay ended with no bids, with a buy it now for £1400 I should imagine the seller will be looking for offers over £1000 due to its condition, if its as good as it looks its git to be worth £1400 all day long.
Ok good it sounds good, the people are nice and I have just booked my flight to collect it! Hope it handles the 350miles home well!!

Thanks Everyone, I will update with some pics when I get it!

And yes a good service and I may have a chat with the saxmundom guy, or I may just get carried away and do it myself!
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Old Jun 21st, 2018, 09:59   #24
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Smile My 940 2.3 Turbo manual is ebay and ends in 9 hrs

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113063948476

I know the head gasket has gone on our trusty Volvo, and so it needs a bit of work to get out of the starting gates by the new buyer, but we have loved this Volvo so much, and its going to break my heart for us to sell it

But sell it we must, we have too many cars, and much as it is sentimental to us because it was my father's, I want to get Mum the best price for it.

This car was running every day before the head gasket went a few weeks ago, and has been so reliable for us, its just that this job came up the day before the MOT and we have three other cars to tax service and insure.

I previously thought the engine had caught fire when the head gasket blew, I now know it just dumped coolant and was a lot of steam

Auction finishes at 17.27 today
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113063948476

I know the head gasket has gone on our trusty Volvo, and so it needs a bit of work to get out of the starting gates by the new buyer, but we have loved this Volvo so much, and its going to break my heart for us to sell it

But sell it we must, we have too many cars, and much as it is sentimental to us because it was my father's, I want to get Mum the best price for it.

This car was running every day before the head gasket went a few weeks ago, and has been so reliable for us, its just that this job came up the day before the MOT and we have three other cars to tax service and insure.

I previously thought the engine had caught fire when the head gasket blew, I now know it just dumped coolant and was a lot of steam

Auction finishes at 17.27 today
Who put the red OAT antifreeze in?
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Would have been my independent volvo specialist garage, why?
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In that case, they should repair the head gasket FOC, thoroughly flush all that red cr@p out and refill it with fresh, blue/green ethylene glycol, NOT that red Organic Acid Technology stuff that's really only suitable for use in cars made after 2000.

http://forums.aaca.org/topic/158713-...e-anti-freeze/

http://aagaskets.com.au/PDF/CoolantC...YourEngine.pdf

http://www.imcool.com/articles/antif...le-Excerpt.pdf

http://www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums...technology-ok/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifreeze

That's just a few results. In short it attacks the material used in older gaskets (including the head gasket) causing premature failure. If the engine had been stripped down and rebuilt using gaskets made with the newer materials and meticulously flushed, it wouldn't have been a problem.

However, i strongly suspect they didn't flush it meticulously leaving at least a small amount of the original ethylene glycol behind. When mixed with OAT antifreeze, a gel forms, blocking the waterways.

I've lost count now of the number of times i've seen HGF as a result of OAT coolant in older (pre-2000) engines. If your turbo was water-cooled as i believe a lot are on later 940s, because of the gel thing, there's a likelihood your turbo is now scrap as well.
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Exclamation Dave - further advice please?

Hi Dave,

I just spoke to the garage and they said they can see why you said that but that they use a pink universal antifreeze not the red one

What are your thoughts on this, are they in the clear?
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Hi Dave,

I just spoke to the garage and they said they can see why you said that but that they use a pink universal antifreeze not the red one

What are your thoughts on this, are they in the clear?
OK, first thing is it looks red to me - however, the expansion tank is in shadow so it's possible it's pink inside.

That said, you need further clarification of exactly what sort of universal antifreeze they used - "pink" isn't a good enough description.

If they can confirm it's ethylene glycol then yes, they would be in the clear but don't say the words "ethylene glycol" to them, ask them what sort of antifreeze this pink one is.

If they say "Universal" it's the wrong answer!

I know EuroCar Prats were selling a "Universal Pink Antifreeze/Coolant" that has now disappeared from their website. Looking at the nearest one they have listed, they classify it as red and universal and the label then says "Organic Acid Technology".

I think you need to ring your garage back and get the answer to exactly what sort of antifreeze this "Pink Universal" stuff is.

One other thought, based on the assumption that this pink stuff is ethylene glycol, when was it last changed?
Ethylene Glycol needs to be changed every 2 years, even 3 years is stretching it as it can turn acidic and attack the solder used in older radiators. Even radiators with plastic end tanks have solder, as the cores are often soldered into what radiator people call the "end plate" that is then "crimped" into the plastic end tank.

However, going on the photo, you still had plenty of coolant so the HGF is either down to OAT antifreeze or just bad luck.

From what i've also just learned, the OAT coolant was developed for all-aluminium engines as it is less corrosive to the aluminium.

However it's not recommended for older iron engines and presumably by extension of that, not for mixed metal engines either.

From the research i've done into similar problems, for others, it's pretty obvious that there is no such thing as a universal antifreeze as very often adverse reactions can occur causing excessive acidity or alkalinity. not to mention the gel which i've since discovered is caused by the silicates in the ethylene glycol being caused to drop out by the acids in the OAT antifreeze.
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