Full time LPG

[zetor160]

Hello all,

Would anybody be able to offer some advice here on a fulltime LPG system to run with either a B234F (16v) or a B230E Redblock engine in a 740 car?

What are the pro's and cons/advantages of a full time system as opposed to a LPG system that starts on petrol and then after warming turns over to Gas?

Full time LPG - Does this mean that the car's fuel system i.e.electric pumps/fueltank/injection system etc.would be redundant?

What should it all cost?? Also is it cost effective..esp. on a (well maintained) 20 yr old car??

Anyone heard/know about/experienced with this company in South Wales..it's called 'Profess Auto Gas' ??

I believe the owner is Polish and they seem to have a good reputation and their prices are also very keen from what I can see.(895 gbp quoted for a 3-4 cylinder car)

Thanks a lot for any advice..

Gareth

[Mike1967]

Here is an old post by a good friend of mine .....http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=41007

I bought this car from him .... but sold sometime ago now . It is still on the road though , and running perfect still .

[zetor160]

Thanks a lot Stiggy, that's helpful

Regards

[Clan]

The volvo approved Landi-Hartog LPG Dealer conversions between 1979 and 1986 could be used full time , they had a kind of choke button which let extra LPG through so it would easily start on LPG from cold and run on it all day ...

[zetor160]

Hia Clan,

Thanks for your reply, that's interesting to know. I can see your address says Wales and the West.Whereabouts are you??

Regards

[Clan]

oh a long way east of you :-)

[classicswede]

If you are thinking about profess I suggest you go deep into research first. I see a lot of cars from south wales that have been converted and need sorting out. Equipment is low quality and set up is very minimal without any real effort. The only + point is they give the customers the software and lead so they can sort the conversion out when they get home.

As you want to run 100% LPG then you do have a couple of options.
1) you could fit a traditional mixer system possibly with lambda control but as a gas only car I'd stay basic with a open loop mixer. The down side is the managment light will come on and there is a risk of backfiring. Quite a strong risk with the 16 valve engine.

2) youy could go multi point but only a few systems will automaticaly start on gas. I set my own cars up that way and also set up the taxis I do to start on gas when the engine is warm. A lot of teh boats I have done on multi point have been gas only as the gas tank goes where the petrol tank went. The problem with that is not having petrol as a referance when setting up but with experiance this is not a problem. Not all cars will start on LPG from cold but the older volvo's never seem to have a problem other than needing a lttle cranking.

If you want to be running on gas 100% of the time check with the installer that the system they will use can do it and they have experiance of both your model and setting up gas only cars.

[zetor160]

Hi Classic Swede,

Thanks very much for your help and advice on this subject. I see from the forum that you are experienced in this field. Thanks too for your thoughts on 'Profess' - like you say, it would be good to dig a bit deeper in to their fitting experience.
Whereabout are you in 'Ynys Mon'..?

Thanks a lot again,

Gareth

[classicswede]

My place is near holyhead and my dads is near Llyn alaw

[zetor160]

Thanks Dai..I know llyn Alaw well..maybe i'll pm you sometime once I have the 740 sorted out to talk about lpg?

All the best

Gareth