S40 V40 Cars: clutch cost

[gatos]

Originally Posted by mathewst

Arent newer phase2 1.9d volvo gearboxes?

They are indeed. They are using a Volvo M56 variant gearbox

[martin93]

Originally Posted by clarkey1984

Older cars that were around before the dmf was invented didn't go around blowing their gearboxes to bits all the time, yeah they do smooth out vibrations but not to the point where damage would result if they weren't there in the first place, my old bmw E36 328i had a failing dmf when I sold it, the new owner (one of my friends) fitted a single mass conversion and a lightened flywheel, and the car spent a lot of its time sideways on track (drifting) which works the drive train really hard, and although it did toast a diff or 2, never had an issue gearbox wise witjout the dual mass, I drove it a few times after it had the conversion and it was more revvy, eager, and just felt better in general.

Your friend's BMW 328i is a smooth 6 cylinder petrol, of course it's not going to damage anything. I would gladly fit a solid flywheel to a petrol V40, as my p1 petrol (never had a DMF fitted) is lovely and smooth. So Volvo's adoption of a DMF there was pointless.

[martin93]

Originally Posted by mathewst

Arent newer phase2 1.9d volvo gearboxes?

It doesn't matter. Just because it's Volvo doesn't mean its good. I had a 2.0 phase 2 with the M56 box, and it was a horrible thing. The input shaft bearing let go at 90K. My P1 with the Renault box is fab, and none of the petrol Renault boxes had a DMF. Just my experience though.

This is a pointless argument. There are many threads on the forums with wars for and against the DMF. I am an engineer, and to me, having something there to dampen out the vibrations from a harsh four cylinder DIESEL is a good idea. Especially if the car was designed and built with it. Having something there to dampen out the vibrations from a smooth four cylinder PETROL (look at the sassy capitals) is pointless which is why I would remove a DMF from a petrol V40 in a heartbeat.

Anyway, as I also pointed out in my original reply, which everyone seems to have ignored, I'm pretty sure a solid flywheel from an 850 won't fit a Renault diesel. Agreed? Just making sure the OP doesn't buy an 850 unit based on poor information.

[dralphs]

Getting back to the question, my local independent did mine about 18 months ago for £700

[HalV40]

I would love to buy the friction plate and cover off Ebay for £150 and fit the thing myself but the missus would blow a gasket if I dripped oil on the driveway.

I'm just not sure if the car itself is worth a new clutch, what do you lot think? The car is in fair condition, only surface rust underneath, no sill rust. The front wings have rusted through but everything works in the car. It's a 2001 with 180k miles and cost £500 a year ago.
All the second hand cars out there are overpriced and the cheap ones are boxes on wheels and nothing like the spec on this old V40 so that kinda makes me think about keeping it and spending a bit on it.

[Dippydog]

If you like the car and it's suitable for your needs for the foreseeable future then I'd put a clutch in it,after all if you look to spend the same £500 you paid for this one on a "new" car what are you going to get that you like as much/better and that you're not going to have to spend further money on?If you decide to go with a clutch change you want to be looking at clutch plate,pressure plate and thrust bearing as a minimum-whether you change the dmf while it's apart would be your gamble.Is the slave cylinder inside the bell housing on these?If so you might want to change that at the same time.

[canis]

Buying another secondhand car is always a gamble. You could shell out a huge wedge of money and be in the same situation a month from now. I'd change the clutch, and know (assuming you don't drive like my father-in-law) it's done for the rest of the life of the car.

Therefore the expression; Better the devil you know.