A Reply to Lance BLACK V70 T5

IC · Sep 30th, 2006, 11:57

Lance BLACK V70 T5, in reponse to your complaint about locking your thread http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...t=25196&page=2

The thread was locked because it was turning into one of these tiring bickering threads that many people are getting sick of. I locked it for that reason, not because of any bias. In future, I would appreciate it if you were unhappy with a thread being locked or anything else for that matter you were to raise the issue with me on this site either publically or privately instead of complaining on another forum without rasing the issue first here.

Jod T5 · Oct 3rd, 2006, 07:10

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Originally Posted by Lance BLACK V70 T5

Im not the voice of VT just a satisfied customer recalling a few facts.
I have no commercial ties with anyone in the motortrade. Im just another performance Volvo owner whos been around a few years and not got round to signing up and posting intill recently.

lance i beleive that we are both singing from the same hymn book when it comes to the rica ecu chip and the work carried out by volvo tuning.. i consider myself to be one of the main praisers of volvo tuning on this forum and i too have been berated and mocked by various people for making forthright views on volvotuning and the current rica 304 that my engine is running....
for quite a while now hamish and nat and before them adam had some fairly frank exchanges of words with the other "tuners" on this forum which resulted in some tension and at time humerous disagreements...
since your introduction to the forum you have imo raised the ante with regard to the anamosity between the tuners...your posts are generally aggressive and try in this manor to influence people into taking your side and ultimately the side of volvotuning...this, shows volvotuning on this forum in a bad light and in turn volvotuning supportors such as myself... For example the post fao bobcat was clearly a effort on yours or persons unknown to a) have a dig at bobcat...and b) start a typical "round in circles" shouting match... i appreciate you accepted ic's findings that your post was inappropriate and you conducted the rest of the thread with inteligance and decorum...
The other thread you started concerning the 15/08/04 meet was again a dig at bobcat..for whatever reason being it right or wrong is irrelevant imo it was sarky and aggresive...
The only other thread i see you have started, even that had the clear undertones of a dig at the voc forum...

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Originally Posted by Lance BLACK V70 T5

Wow what a nice place to be , I think I will come here for my holidays when I want a nice quite break so I can just talk to myself with just 46 people listening in!
I will defo be recomending this forum to every Volvo driver and internet user I know as a chill out place to come and rant

It is my opinion too that if you had not attempted as you did to stir matters between the tuners with superfluous comments that nat and hamish would still be welcome on this site and that is a sad loss to us ALL....
cheers
jod

Lance BLACK V70 T5 · Oct 3rd, 2006, 16:42

I don't have anything to do with the barrings, Not my department, Im not backing down from anything Ive said , It was ok for people to jump on the slag Vt wagon , but not ok for me to come out with a few home true's, after all Ive been reading this forum from a far for quite some time!

In terms of aggressive , I don't think so, its very much from what I can see an ok for 1 but not for another rule.

I do believe this forum is biased to certain users, its ok for one tuner to mock another , but when the shoes on the other foot it changes.

Anyway have fun everyone , Im off , Im sure im not wanted on this forum! So I will save IC and Bob the pleasure.

Goodbye

Drew · Oct 3rd, 2006, 16:48

I don't think you should go Lance - hang around a bit as I would hope from this day forth the tuning chat will calm down some what

This forum has a lot to offer from what I can see - as long as we knock this petty crap on the head we can all move on. No more animosity please

Drew

James_N · Oct 3rd, 2006, 16:50

Always makes me smile sometimes how heated people can get about small things, especially on the internet!

bb54 · Oct 3rd, 2006, 16:54

no need to leave mate, take a chill pill, eat a slice of mellow pie and lets get back to nicey nice VOC.

wayne

MissDMeanor · Oct 3rd, 2006, 17:03

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Originally Posted by Lance BLACK V70 T5

Anyway have fun everyone , Im off , Im sure im not wanted on this forum! So I will save IC and Bob the pleasure.

Goodbye

Hey Lance

I was away at the weekend so I'm not too clear on what went down. I'm sorry to see that you're going - especially under a black cloud.

Take care & catch you at one of the meets hopefully

Jod T5 · Oct 3rd, 2006, 17:28

lance, the last thing intended is for you to leave this forum, you have proved that you have useful information to share with other, less aware forum members..., i will always appreciate your backing when countering the volvotuning knockers...FACT...
i just feel you need to adopt a more...attack when attacked stance when it comes to this sensitive subject...at the end of the day lance its the same old stuff "they" throw at volvotuning and it has all been gone over in the past...it is not news and of no interest to 90% of forum members...
i have turned the page on this and any other posts of this nature, to date, and i hope you can too and still feel you can add to the debates...
cheers
jod

999Kent · Oct 5th, 2006, 15:41

I have been on for only 2 weeks - paid my money - and as grown up people - each should make up their own mind who to use to tune the car - a call to 3 of them made me only call one back !!! - each to their own - but a drive in a car done by the company you are going to use - before you have it done would stop all of the childish

ranting so many do - hope this does not offend any one.

don kalmar union · Oct 6th, 2006, 08:23

I have to agree absolutely with these last few posts: stay visiting this forum.

It is the only UK based forum that welcomes vigorous debate. As a much older bloke than pretty much all of you , I do find that it is obviously difficult to argue on the web in some circumstances without seeming to or indeed causing offence.

The subtlety of face to face discussion, or even an exchange on the 'phone appears to me to be very illusive in this medium.

The true resolution to anyone here who does take offence is to take some time to meet the other regulars at one of the performance section meetings. They are made up of a very decent bunch, who have bought stuff from myself and pretty much all of my competitors and allways get on very well.

KEEP TUNED IN....

Regards, Don.Norchi.

www.kalmar-union.com

Sep 30th, 2006, 11:57	#1
IC S60R/V70R Last Online: Today 11:54 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Brumbeldore View Photos By: IC	A Reply to Lance BLACK V70 T5 Lance BLACK V70 T5, in reponse to your complaint about locking your thread http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...t=25196&page=2 The thread was locked because it was turning into one of these tiring bickering threads that many people are getting sick of. I locked it for that reason, not because of any bias. In future, I would appreciate it if you were unhappy with a thread being locked or anything else for that matter you were to raise the issue with me on this site either publically or privately instead of complaining on another forum without rasing the issue first here. __________________ 2003 S60R 2003 V70R VOC Speed Challenge Champion 2007/08/Joint Winner 2009 Motor Sport Challenge Winner 2008/Joint Winner 2009 Last edited by IC; Sep 30th, 2006 at 12:09.

Oct 3rd, 2006, 16:50	#5
James_N VOC Member Last Online: Jan 4th, 2024 11:32 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Stafford View Photos By: James_N	Always makes me smile sometimes how heated people can get about small things, especially on the internet! __________________ 1997 Volvo 940 LPT Celebration. 187,700 miles, manual.

Oct 3rd, 2006, 16:54	#6
bb54 diy bhp Last Online: Apr 7th, 2011 19:38 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: great yarmouth	no need to leave mate, take a chill pill, eat a slice of mellow pie and lets get back to nicey nice VOC. wayne __________________ auto 96 T5 tweaked n ratted

Oct 3rd, 2006, 17:28	#8
Jod T5 Phoenix from the ashes Last Online: Apr 24th, 2024 01:05 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Finchingfield	lance, the last thing intended is for you to leave this forum, you have proved that you have useful information to share with other, less aware forum members..., i will always appreciate your backing when countering the volvotuning knockers...FACT... i just feel you need to adopt a more...attack when attacked stance when it comes to this sensitive subject...at the end of the day lance its the same old stuff "they" throw at volvotuning and it has all been gone over in the past...it is not news and of no interest to 90% of forum members... i have turned the page on this and any other posts of this nature, to date, and i hope you can too and still feel you can add to the debates... cheers jod __________________ Dum Spiro Spero VOC 20419

Oct 5th, 2006, 15:41	#9
999Kent New Member Last Online: Jul 1st, 2007 20:48 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ashford Kent	The big rant I have been on for only 2 weeks - paid my money - and as grown up people - each should make up their own mind who to use to tune the car - a call to 3 of them made me only call one back !!! - each to their own - but a drive in a car done by the company you are going to use - before you have it done would stop all of the childish ranting so many do - hope this does not offend any one.

Oct 3rd, 2006, 16:42	#3
Lance BLACK V70 T5 Junior Member Last Online: Nov 17th, 2008 18:23 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: nottingham	I don't have anything to do with the barrings, Not my department, Im not backing down from anything Ive said , It was ok for people to jump on the slag Vt wagon , but not ok for me to come out with a few home true's, after all Ive been reading this forum from a far for quite some time! In terms of aggressive , I don't think so, its very much from what I can see an ok for 1 but not for another rule. I do believe this forum is biased to certain users, its ok for one tuner to mock another , but when the shoes on the other foot it changes. Anyway have fun everyone , Im off , Im sure im not wanted on this forum! So I will save IC and Bob the pleasure. Goodbye

Oct 3rd, 2006, 16:48	#4
Drew Member Last Online: Apr 8th, 2008 14:28 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: St. Kitts	I don't think you should go Lance - hang around a bit as I would hope from this day forth the tuning chat will calm down some what This forum has a lot to offer from what I can see - as long as we knock this petty crap on the head we can all move on. No more animosity please Drew

Oct 6th, 2006, 08:23	#10
don kalmar union Trader Last Online: Today 15:30 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chesham, buckinghamshire	I have to agree absolutely with these last few posts: stay visiting this forum. It is the only UK based forum that welcomes vigorous debate. As a much older bloke than pretty much all of you , I do find that it is obviously difficult to argue on the web in some circumstances without seeming to or indeed causing offence. The subtlety of face to face discussion, or even an exchange on the 'phone appears to me to be very illusive in this medium. The true resolution to anyone here who does take offence is to take some time to meet the other regulars at one of the performance section meetings. They are made up of a very decent bunch, who have bought stuff from myself and pretty much all of my competitors and allways get on very well. KEEP TUNED IN.... Regards, Don.Norchi. www.kalmar-union.com

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