School me in the diesel clutch set up... - Page 5

barkster1971 · Feb 6th, 2014, 07:46

Might have to go with a Borg and Back one then!

Steve940estate · Feb 6th, 2014, 09:36

I bought a clutch kit and flywheel from Braydon Motor Company back in 2009 and the clutch cost about £130. Whole lot then was £185 including delivery.

The part number for the kit I got was Sachs 3000696001.

Looking on the net I found these people who list comparable parts from various manufacturers but they seem to list the wrong Borg and Beck one by the sound of things.

http://www.niparts.com/index.aspx?ac...anum1=83021CDD

That link doesn't work properly but if you type in the sachs number you get something different.

barkster1971 · Feb 6th, 2014, 10:43

Just been having a word with a supplier, Luk kit is £170, Sachs £180. But they also stock National parts for only £64! Now I said, " Well if it's that cheap surely it's a load of cr@p, " but he said they compile the kits from Sachs parts

. He is getting one in to open up and see what's actually inside.
Also I got a reply off another supplier who said the Sachs kits are no longer made and there's only one left in stock for £203.

barkster1971 · Feb 6th, 2014, 11:38

LUK: 623224000 £180.27 + VAT
SACHS: 3000 696 001 £145.01 + VAT
BORG & BECK: HK6664 £231.25 + VAT
AP CLUTCHES: KT6664 £125.08 + VAT - OBSOLETE
NATIONAL: CK9729 £132.10 + VAT - OBSOLETE
VECO: VCK3745 £177.50 + VAT
VALEO: 826450 £175.00 + VAT

Not much use from wanapart! The Borg and Beck HK6664 is available for £108 posted on ebay. The only tempting one is the Sachs one but I'd want that a bit cheaper.

Steve940estate · Feb 6th, 2014, 14:27

Is there any chance the cheap ones are actually reconditioned ?

I'm wondering how various makes get into one box. If a company get hold of good quality used parts and then fit new friction material they could have come from Sachs originally.

I don't know this for a fact but I know reconditioned clutches are availavble but haven't really thought about what you actually get.

Steve940estate · Feb 6th, 2014, 14:30

If this is the correct company they actually sound pretty good and use new parts.

http://www.national-auto.co.uk/clutc...uct_range.aspx

barkster1971 · Feb 6th, 2014, 15:15

Gave them a ring and they don't supply to the public. The lass said they get the clutchs " from China ". The clutch number from them is CK9729 for the tdic clutch. I will wait and see what's in the kit that they supply to the other bloke.

barkster1971 · Feb 6th, 2014, 15:58

The add on ebay for a borg and Beck clutch kit is £108. The part number is HK6664 and the bloke at car parts and spares said it contains a Luk plate. As luk parts are more or less sachs parts that will do for me . It's ebay number=
331096762665.

barkster1971 · Feb 28th, 2014, 18:35

I had a look at the m90 faq on Turbobricks :- volvo 850 glt clutch 18 1862 314 032 plus a sachs racing pressure plate. Eventually found this on ebay:- item number- 330735151430. Sachs 3 piece clutch kit for £141.99.
It hasn't got the sachs racing pressure plate but I think it will do.

barkster1971 · Apr 1st, 2014, 18:06

I'm going with the 850 glt clutch and pressure plate. Second hand for £50 then posting them to Friction Services in Bristol to get pimped. The sachs racing pressure plate is around £350! ( from the m90 faq on Turbobricks ). The release bearing I already have.

Feb 6th, 2014, 07:46	#41
barkster1971 VOC Member Last Online: Apr 23rd, 2024 16:56 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Swineshead/Salford	Interesting Might have to go with a Borg and Back one then! __________________ new engine! new car!

Feb 6th, 2014, 09:36	#42
Steve940estate Steam Driven PC Owner. Last Online: Mar 4th, 2024 23:50 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Not sure.	I bought a clutch kit and flywheel from Braydon Motor Company back in 2009 and the clutch cost about £130. Whole lot then was £185 including delivery. The part number for the kit I got was Sachs 3000696001. Looking on the net I found these people who list comparable parts from various manufacturers but they seem to list the wrong Borg and Beck one by the sound of things. http://www.niparts.com/index.aspx?ac...anum1=83021CDD That link doesn't work properly but if you type in the sachs number you get something different. Last edited by Steve940estate; Feb 6th, 2014 at 09:39.

Feb 6th, 2014, 10:43	#43
barkster1971 VOC Member Last Online: Apr 23rd, 2024 16:56 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Swineshead/Salford	chat Just been having a word with a supplier, Luk kit is £170, Sachs £180. But they also stock National parts for only £64! Now I said, " Well if it's that cheap surely it's a load of cr@p, " but he said they compile the kits from Sachs parts. He is getting one in to open up and see what's actually inside. Also I got a reply off another supplier who said the Sachs kits are no longer made and there's only one left in stock for £203. __________________ new engine! new car!

Feb 6th, 2014, 11:38	#44
barkster1971 VOC Member Last Online: Apr 23rd, 2024 16:56 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Swineshead/Salford	wanapart LUK: 623224000 £180.27 + VAT SACHS: 3000 696 001 £145.01 + VAT BORG & BECK: HK6664 £231.25 + VAT AP CLUTCHES: KT6664 £125.08 + VAT - OBSOLETE NATIONAL: CK9729 £132.10 + VAT - OBSOLETE VECO: VCK3745 £177.50 + VAT VALEO: 826450 £175.00 + VAT Not much use from wanapart! The Borg and Beck HK6664 is available for £108 posted on ebay. The only tempting one is the Sachs one but I'd want that a bit cheaper. __________________ new engine! new car!

Feb 6th, 2014, 15:15	#47
barkster1971 VOC Member Last Online: Apr 23rd, 2024 16:56 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Swineshead/Salford	national Gave them a ring and they don't supply to the public. The lass said they get the clutchs " from China ". The clutch number from them is CK9729 for the tdic clutch. I will wait and see what's in the kit that they supply to the other bloke. __________________ new engine! new car!

Feb 6th, 2014, 14:27	#45
Steve940estate Steam Driven PC Owner. Last Online: Mar 4th, 2024 23:50 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Not sure.	Is there any chance the cheap ones are actually reconditioned ? I'm wondering how various makes get into one box. If a company get hold of good quality used parts and then fit new friction material they could have come from Sachs originally. I don't know this for a fact but I know reconditioned clutches are availavble but haven't really thought about what you actually get.

Feb 6th, 2014, 14:30	#46
Steve940estate Steam Driven PC Owner. Last Online: Mar 4th, 2024 23:50 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Not sure.	If this is the correct company they actually sound pretty good and use new parts. http://www.national-auto.co.uk/clutc...uct_range.aspx

Feb 6th, 2014, 15:58	#48
barkster1971 VOC Member Last Online: Apr 23rd, 2024 16:56 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Swineshead/Salford	parts The add on ebay for a borg and Beck clutch kit is £108. The part number is HK6664 and the bloke at car parts and spares said it contains a Luk plate. As luk parts are more or less sachs parts that will do for me . It's ebay number= 331096762665. __________________ new engine! new car!

Feb 28th, 2014, 18:35	#49
barkster1971 VOC Member Last Online: Apr 23rd, 2024 16:56 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Swineshead/Salford	faq I had a look at the m90 faq on Turbobricks :- volvo 850 glt clutch 18 1862 314 032 plus a sachs racing pressure plate. Eventually found this on ebay:- item number- 330735151430. Sachs 3 piece clutch kit for £141.99. It hasn't got the sachs racing pressure plate but I think it will do. __________________ new engine! new car!

Apr 1st, 2014, 18:06	#50
barkster1971 VOC Member Last Online: Apr 23rd, 2024 16:56 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Swineshead/Salford	850 glt I'm going with the 850 glt clutch and pressure plate. Second hand for £50 then posting them to Friction Services in Bristol to get pimped. The sachs racing pressure plate is around £350! ( from the m90 faq on Turbobricks ). The release bearing I already have. __________________ new engine! new car!

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