DAB radio

[SG1]

Originally Posted by DT19

Chapmans by any chance? Suppose they have to pay for their new showroom somehow

The apps I use on my Android phone are called UK Radio, Radio UK FM/DAB (for UK stations) and PC Radio (for international stations). It's simple to set up and I stream it via bluetooth to the car system. You need a phone with a decent data allowance but it's still way cheaper than having the DAB kit retro-fitted, and probably more future proof. As a Yorkshireman I like the cheaper bit the most.

Riverside Doncaster.

Thanks for the tip regards the phone. I’ve just had my data allowance doubled to I can’t see my using 80gb of data a month.

[SG1]

Just to give an update. I had to get a new key from Volvo. The garage changed the quote as my car already had digital TV so I wouldn’t need a new window they quoted me £843.82 inc. VAT for DAB to be fitted.

[H3lter]

Hi bud, can’t DM as I don’t have enough posts yet but...

you know much about retro fitting upgrades?

Just I’ve found the loom
Under an rest for usb, bought the usb socket etc but obvs the sensus doesn’t know I have usb so no option.

It doesn’t even have power to it as it won’t charge anything either.

Asked the stealership if it needs upgrade etc and they just said never been asked and doubt it’s possible but I can’t see that been the case if the looms there

On the other hand if your answer is no to the first question ignore the rest lol!

TIA

Nath

Originally Posted by fluff110

As the others have said, Volvo can tell you whether your car was pre-wired for DAB, and that makes for the simplest install.

However if it wasn't and you're happy to get a little involved then you should be able to do it anyway by extending the MOST network in your car. I did this with my P3 V70 using a V40 DAB module off eBay and it's working nicely.

For a "manual" install you'll need a MOST splitter/extension cable (also available on eBay), probably a mounting bracket, some wire to connect the module to a power supply and a DAB aerial (window mount tends to be easiest). Once the kit is installed you can take the car to a sealer/indy for the software - you'll need "MOST anti-theft disable" and "DABM load" I believe (the first to tell the car you're adding a module and the second to tell it you're adding DAB.

It's a bit fiddly but can be done without too much grief.

Give me a shout if you want any more info on this

Cheers,


Paul

[wertzius]

You have a 400-500kg heavier, bigger car with much more horsepower and it needs more Diesel? I wonder why...

[fluff110]

Hi Nath, to be honest I'm just a bit of a geek but I love trying to work stuff like this out

I've just sold my P3 because of serious electrical problems, but I'll have a dig around anyway.

What sort of car have you got? And what model year?

Cheers,


Paul

Originally Posted by H3lter

Hi bud, can’t DM as I don’t have enough posts yet but...

you know much about retro fitting upgrades?

Just I’ve found the loom
Under an rest for usb, bought the usb socket etc but obvs the sensus doesn’t know I have usb so no option.

It doesn’t even have power to it as it won’t charge anything either.

Asked the stealership if it needs upgrade etc and they just said never been asked and doubt it’s possible but I can’t see that been the case if the looms there

On the other hand if your answer is no to the first question ignore the rest lol!

TIA

Nath

[Mikes bike]

Hi I have 2010 v70 1.6 drive it very high spec. but I too would love to add the DAB module, as iv has seen plenty for sale. on eBay. Iv spoke to Volvo, but they are a bit vague and say they only offered DAB from 2013, and they have a different interface which doesn't make sense, to me, I'm a bit confused, as you say the module, will work with 2008 on. unless you're talking about models or year, I'm new to Volvo and have only had the car 3 months, its the newer shape car. is a P3? Do you know what exactly i should be asking Volvo? thanks, Mike.

[fluff110]

Hi Mike,

Yes the newer shape from 2008 is known as a P3.

I THINK you can add DAB to a 2010. It's included on the wiring diagrams and I've seen a few cars for sale online that say they have it. Most likely the dealer you spoke to was referring to the DAB upgrade as I think they only offered that from 2013 onwards.

Probably the physical installation would be the same but you would need different software. After a bit of Googling, it looks like the DAB application for 2010MY is 31266811. ITP Remove may be 31382168, 31268617 or 30786292 but I'm not sure. A dealer should be able to find the correct part numbers for ITP remove and DABM and then download them.

I don't think a dealer will install the hardware for you as they're usually reluctant to do anything that's not official, so you'd need to do that bit yourself first and then ask them to install the software. It may also be worth finding a decent indy specialist as they can be more willing to do stuff that's not quite "official".

Your best bet is probably to get a cheap fibre optic Y cable like in my previous post and make up a power lead so you can connect the DAB module to the car, then ask the dealer to install the software. At this point the software should install and you'll have an extra reception option somewhere around the AM/FM ones (sorry I don't know exactly, I haven't been inside a pre-facelift P3). You won't get any DAB reception but you should at least be able to select it.

If you get to that point then you can fix the module properly and sort out an aerial etc. for it and you're good to go.

If it doesn't work (or the software isn't available) then you've only lost the cost of the module and the cable, and maybe some dealer labour.

Does that help? Let me know if you want any more info

Paul

Originally Posted by Mikes bike

Hi I have 2010 v70 1.6 drive it very high spec. but I too would love to add the DAB module, as iv has seen plenty for sale. on eBay. Iv spoke to Volvo, but they are a bit vague and say they only offered DAB from 2013, and they have a different interface which doesn't make sense, to me, I'm a bit confused, as you say the module, will work with 2008 on. unless you're talking about models or year, I'm new to Volvo and have only had the car 3 months, its the newer shape car. is a P3? Do you know what exactly i should be asking Volvo? thanks, Mike.

[bluebossa]

Originally Posted by fluff110

Sorry for the delay guys, work getting in the way.

Would you believe it, when googling around for reminders while writing I found this from Volvo. Turns out they DO offer a kit for V70's that aren't prewired. I'm pretty sure this wasn't around last year (unless I missed it) but it would have made life a whole lot easier, although probably more expensive!

Apparently you can't do this on 08MY cars as the infotainment software doesn't support DAB at all, but I'm not aware of any other limitations - if you're 09-16MY then you're probably OK but don't take my word for that.

If you still want to go down the manual route, the main bits you'll need for this are:

- DAB Module: I used one from a 2012 V40 as it was the cheapest one I could find. At a guess probably most modules will work (regardless of part number) as they all communicate on the MOST bus but I may have just been lucky. If you can, get one with some loom still attached like this one on eBay as it makes life easier when connecting the power etc.

- DAB antenna: Any decent quality DAB antenna should do but it must be amplified and have a Fakra connector to connect to the module. Something like this should work. The "proper" way to do it is to replace one of the existing FM amplifier modules attached to the windows (varies depending on model) but I never found a suitable one on eBay so went for the easier, if slightly less "OEM" option.

- MOST 'Y' Cable: The MOST bus is a ring network of optical fibre so you can't just cut in to it (more's the pity!). I couldn't find a sensibly priced Y cable, so I made one out of a loopback connector and a male-to-male cable. It's difficult to explain (if it's not obvious!) what you need from the cable so I've attached a picture. Make sure the male-to-male cable is long enough to route between the sub and wherever you're fitting the module. Ideally the fibre should be routed down the side of the footwell with existing cables so it doesn't rub. I found 2 metres to be a little too tight. As it's fibre, you can gently coil up and secure any excess without it causing interference.

- Software: You'll need Infotainment Theft Prevention (ITP) Removal and DABM Application (30786292 and 31266811 for V70 2012 I believe). The first tells the car to re-audit the modules in the chain and accept what's present, the second provides the DAB functionality. They're about £20 each plus labour to load them. My local indy (Wrights of Attleborough) have VIDA and were a damn sight cheaper on labour than the franchise dealer (Holden Motors).



For V70's the module is mounted between the rear bench and the cargo area. If you have 4C then you should already have the correct mounting bracket in place and the module fits on top of the suspension control module with four bolts. If not you're probably best off securing it somewhere with heavy duty Velcro or similar.

The wiring diagrams show that the module is connected to a permanent 12V supply via a 5A fuse. There's usually a good supply for this somewhere close. If you don't have a module with existing loom then you can make one from Dupont connectors (not perfect but fit well and are safe). Pin 1 on the power connector is 12V and should be the left hand pin as you look at the module label up but check this for yourself obviously!

Once you have a suitable Y cable, the easiest place to connect it is probably the amplifier under the driver's seat. The cable is bright orange and pretty easy to find, but don't bend it too sharply as there's a risk of snapping the fibre. Unplug the cable from the amp, attach your Y cable then put plug 1 back in to the amp. It's worth pointing out here that you won't have any audio in the car unless you attach and power up the DAB module, or put a another loopback connector on plug 2 as the ring needs to be complete to work. There's nothing to stop you connecting and powering up the module - the car will just ignore it until the software has been downloaded.

The antenna needs to be powered from a switched supply so as not to drain your battery. At the moment I have mine connected to the 12V socket in the centre tunnel but this isn't ideal as the radio cuts out when you put the ignition on 1 rather than 2. I think the best bet on this one is to attach it to one of the existing aerial amplifiers in the roof lining as it looks like they have a 12V feed that's switched by the infotainment module, so will turn on/off at the right times. I haven't done this yet so don't know if it will work or not, but it should do.

Positioning the antenna is important too as reception quality seems to vary a lot depending on where it is. Once you have everything connected I'd suggest temporarily attaching the antenna with blu tac or something similar for a few days to see where it works best. The nearside rear window works well for me. I do get some dropouts in the signal but they seem to be only in blackspots or poor signal areas - not bad enough to worry about.

Volvo also mention a second antenna in the sharkfin on the roof, but this is only used for L band DAB which isn't used in the UK, so you can safely ignore it.

The aerial connector on the module is a dual Fakra-B (I think) and has two sockets (L band and VHF) but you'll only need to use the VHF one. The two sockets have a small piece of plastic joining them together which will need to be cut away if you don't have any loom to connect to. you should find that the connector will hold itself in place as they're quite snug but a bit of plastic tape works well if not. I can't remember offhand which is which but it's pretty easy to find out as you won't get any reception if you're plugged in to the wrong one!

As you're only using one connector, both the DAB and infotainment modules will probably log diagnostic codes to say that the other connector is open signal as they're expecting it to be connected to the sharkfin, but this doesn't cause any operational problems and unless you've got VIDA and DiCE you won't see them anyway.


It's a bit of a faff to fit everything as the headlining needs to come down a bit, which means taking trim off the side of the cargo area and I seemed to be constantly taking the rear seats down and back up again, but it's not difficult. I spread it over a weekend but it can easily be done in a day.

The modules should support both DAB and DAB+ so there shouldn't be any compatibility problems as/when stations upgrade.

There's also this thread from a Norwegian forum that has more info about retrofitting and is very similar.


That's everything that I can think of at the moment. Suddenly it seems like a lot of effort to go just to listen to RadioX in the car! As DT19 mentioned, it's cheaper and easier to use an app on your phone and stream via Bluetooth, and may sound better too as a lot of DAB stations have really low bitrates and are mono, but I like to fiddle

Hope that helps somebody, let me know if I can give any more info!!

Amazing details and just what I've been looking for... I've got myself a Fibre Cable and a V40 DAB Unit... just ordered the DAB Aerial... thanks for documenting this and even the attached picture of the splitter cable...

I too got quoted £950 to upgrade my V70 P3 to DAB but didn't believe it so started to research. Thanks again for the post... my pics attached

[RDesign4Life]

DAB is sh1t round here anyway. Deadspots and momentary drop-outs in urban areas and lack of coverage in rural areas. I'd rather spend my time and money on doing an extra oil change every year or servicing the haldex. Or adding a revering camera, or a front camera or anything except wasting time on DAB.

Last time we were tootling around the Scottish borders the missus got sick of my iPod full of heavy rock and streamed Absolute 80s from her phone and it worked surprisingly well. Better than DAB that's for sure.

[bluebossa]

So I put my car in after completing the Hardware side of this and got the Dealer INDY to download the software...

It wasn't having any of it...
I fitted and wired in :

31409953 AC - which was from a 2015 Polestar V40 but the software wouldnt work...

The MOST Off software worked but not the DAB software.

Anyone know the correct module DAB Module for a 2013 V70??
There seems to be loads of them on eBay but Volvo typically won't give out the part number only a Kit which is number 32270870

I can currently see these on eBay:

31427225 A - says V60 V70
31667912 - says V60 V70
31409951 - says V70 XC60 (2012 to 2018)

Need to keep going as still not there yet!