V40: !!! HELP!!! 960KG, GATOS.anyone with knowledge.. no clutch

[neanderthal]

update.....thanks 960kg for the info.and gatos for the picture...i removed that plastic thing(picture 1) this morning and it looks fine.put it back together and my brother pumped the clutch pedal.no fluid came out where the plastic thing goes.but plenty of fluid was coming out of(it seems)the clutch housing near the base of the engine....does that make sense(see picture 2)....based on this info,shall i still change that o ring and plastic thing.thanks again

[v40bart]

It is definately a slave cylinder fail, which makes it a gearbox off job. You would not loose so much fluid from busted a o-ring.

[gatos]

I have uploaded the wrong image in post 10. This is the correct one...

I will have a look now on my spare gearbox to see if anything can be done from outside the gearbox.

With some luck it will be part 6 (snap-on coupling).

If not, then we are looking at either part 9 (sealing ring) or part 5 slave cylinder/release bearing unit.

Originally Posted by neanderthal

update.....thanks 960kg for the info.and gatos for the picture...i removed that plastic thing(picture 1) this morning and it looks fine.put it back together and my brother pumped the clutch pedal.no fluid came out where the plastic thing goes.but plenty of fluid was coming out of(it seems)the clutch housing near the base of the engine....does that make sense(see picture 2)....based on this info,shall i still change that o ring and plastic thing.thanks again

[gatos]

I removed the cylinder/release bearing unit so you have an idea of what you can't see. The fact that you say that most of the fluid comes from inside the gearbox, leads me to believe that your fault is here

[neanderthal]

thanks for your time and effort gatos,does this mean as v40bart says its a gearbox job now.and i need a slave cylinder bearing,or should i try the other things you've mentioned(6 and9)....sorry for sounding thick,but also, how come fluid is managing to escape out of the gearbox or clutch housing,when you would think these would be tightly sealedime concerned i might be missing something...as i cannot pinpoint exactly where the leak is coming from...thanks once again all

[SIAMBLUE]

I am too sorry to say it is the worst scenario, your clutch friction plate will be contaminated now as well, i know a guy in Coalville that could do the job for you, but he is always unindated with work.
The bearing alone is going to cost you around a £100, so you might as well buy a complete clutch from Rufe...

Gary.

[gatos]

Originally Posted by neanderthal

thanks for your time and effort gatos,does this mean as v40bart says its a gearbox job now.and i need a slave cylinder bearing,or should i try the other things you've mentioned(6 and9)....sorry for sounding thick,but also, how come fluid is managing to escape out of the gearbox or clutch housing,when you would think these would be tightly sealedime concerned i might be missing something...as i cannot pinpoint exactly where the leak is coming from...thanks once again all

We can never be 100% accurate diagnosing a problem over the internet but I am afraid that yes it is a greabox job. I also have to agree with Siamblue's and v40bart's suggestions.

I think you are doing the same mistake as I did when I took my gearbox out with siamblue. If you look at the photo, you will see that about 1/3 of the gearbox looks kind of hollow. That is where the slave cylinder, clutch, pressure plate are located. If you could see what is hidden and sealed behind the slave cylinder, you would find all the gears and pulleys etc.

[960kg]

looking at that photo of the bell housing where the clutch slave cylinder is situated even if that snap on part number 6 was knackered that large sleeve would keep the oil outside the housing so yes, as others have said now it must be the slave cylinder gone west

real shame it could not of been the simpler smaller parts as usually it is false economy not to renew the whole clutch components while the box is removed

[neanderthal]

OH DEAR!!!thanks everyone for all the information and pictures,it is going to be a great help.i am waiting for someone to get back to me and i will print all this information off and show him it..thanks for the pdf file gatos on how to remove the gearbox.i will check with rufe on that clutch.quoting c3.i will make sure ime sat down.will let you know the outcome in time.what a great forum thanks to all replysps...thanks 960kg i will have the clutch replaced.yes it makes sense.

[v40bart]

Make sure you order the rear crankshaft oil seal just in case. I didn't expect it on a 40k car, but my one was already sweating some oil, just a little. I couldn't get one on a Saturday so I put the car back together without replacing it. I hope it holds or I am facing doing the job again in not to distant future. As you are most likely getting the tranny out get a new clutch kit, slave/thrust bearing and the oil seal. Try www.buypartsby.co.uk