V70 Steering: - v70 turning circle

skinnyrunt23 · Aug 14th, 2007, 20:43

Hi Guys.
Just bought a 2005 v70 - just want to know why the turning circle them is so c***. Its dreadful. Their must be a technical reason why?

Chris.

Viper_7 · Aug 14th, 2007, 20:55

they designed the car then thought about the way it's put together!

The S60 is the same! It's just under 12m turning circle.

Simply I think the engine bay is very cramped and they have pinched every inch, so the wheel's don't have much tu turn in. Think it was also designed with 16's in mind, but most have 17's and this is where the problems start.

Try and avoid full lock though, as it doesn't do the PAS pump much good, trying to turn beyond the stops it will lead to premature wear.

You must also plan your parking well in advance. And entrances to carparks are not the same as the exit - think top gear with those super car's in France! I had to mess about once exiting a carpark and had to go back and forth about four times before I could get round the conveniently place concrete bollard at the exit! Makes you look like a right prat!

vipes

m0auy · Aug 14th, 2007, 21:17

Agreed - my T5 (with 17s) has a turning circle akin to a small tank!

As Vipes says, forward planning is the key!

L

lone chippy · Aug 14th, 2007, 21:29

Oh Dear

Go test drive a 530d estate and then get really upset . You will be fine after a while you just have to predict where you want to park it . Some recommend JEDi training .

RaVolvoR · Aug 15th, 2007, 10:47

I agree my v70 is like an oil tanker in thick ice for turning... it all happens slowly but as was said in replies above, you really do have to plan ahead. I do think it has pretty good "feel" though, so once rolling along its actually quite nice and responsive.

But then my first volvo a 940SETurbo had the opposite problem, amazing turning lock (almost London taxi style) and with the addition of no rear grip a small dab on the throttle and it would spin very nicely... and as for driving it was more of the same no response until it finally decided to turn and then the back of the car wanted to overtake!

Maybe I should have driven it slower but that Turbo was really good fun!

DieselDoNicely · Aug 15th, 2007, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinnyrunt23

Hi Guys.
Just bought a 2005 v70 - just want to know why the turning circle them is so c***. Its dreadful. Their must be a technical reason why?

Chris.

Yes Ford now runs Volvo.

DDN

Viper_7 · Aug 15th, 2007, 12:45

Ford will probably fix it, this was here long before FORD!

Funny thing is, quite often you find these cars fail the MOT! as the wheels sometimes touch the inner wheel arch at full lock.

So you end up having to move the stops and thus make the turning circle even worse!

RobbieH · Aug 15th, 2007, 13:18

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Originally Posted by RaVolvoR

I agree my v70 is like an oil tanker in thick ice for turning... it all happens slowly but as was said in replies above, you really do have to plan ahead. I do think it has pretty good "feel" though, so once rolling along its actually quite nice and responsive.

But then my first volvo a 940SETurbo had the opposite problem, amazing turning lock (almost London taxi style) and with the addition of no rear grip a small dab on the throttle and it would spin very nicely... and as for driving it was more of the same no response until it finally decided to turn and then the back of the car wanted to overtake!

Maybe I should have driven it slower but that Turbo was really good fun!

Aye, I find the same. Used to have a 940SE 2.0T Estate, now V70 D5SE. Chalk 'n cheese! When I went for a test drive in the V70 I had to go round one of those nasty mini-roundabouts, the small painted humps in the road, in the middle of a housing estate. Embarrassingly, I ended up running up the kerb, even on full lock. I was terrified of kurbing the wheels and I hadn't agreed to buy the thing at the time.

Even the BMW 320d "estate" I had to drive between the Volvos had a better tc than the V70.
Just have to plan ahead but it's still a bit embarrassing getting in and out of tight spots when there's a crowd around.

Don't forget the sticky at the top of this topic about wheels touching the arches. I've printed off the pdf file mentioned in bigtree's post and put in the service book just in case I need to refer to it future (and the first MOT is due next month).

Alpha206 · Aug 15th, 2007, 17:49

The wheels rubbing on full lock should not be an MOT failure on the Volvos - see http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...t=35058&page=2

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Think it was also designed with 16's in mind, but most have 17's and this is where the problems start.

It's not a lot better on 16" rims!

960mick · Aug 15th, 2007, 18:11

these cars can,t have a better turning circle due to the fact that the c,v joint on the front drive shaft can only angle so much shame though

Aug 14th, 2007, 20:43	#1
skinnyrunt23 Junior Member Last Online: Sep 19th, 2009 18:08 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: dunblane View Photos By: skinnyrunt23	v70 turning circle Hi Guys. Just bought a 2005 v70 - just want to know why the turning circle them is so c***. Its dreadful. Their must be a technical reason why? Chris. __________________ ________ Chris 2007 SE LUX D5(185bhp) Man

Aug 14th, 2007, 20:55	#2
Viper_7 Premier Member Last Online: Aug 30th, 2013 17:33 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: York	they designed the car then thought about the way it's put together! The S60 is the same! It's just under 12m turning circle. Simply I think the engine bay is very cramped and they have pinched every inch, so the wheel's don't have much tu turn in. Think it was also designed with 16's in mind, but most have 17's and this is where the problems start. Try and avoid full lock though, as it doesn't do the PAS pump much good, trying to turn beyond the stops it will lead to premature wear. You must also plan your parking well in advance. And entrances to carparks are not the same as the exit - think top gear with those super car's in France! I had to mess about once exiting a carpark and had to go back and forth about four times before I could get round the conveniently place concrete bollard at the exit! Makes you look like a right prat! vipes __________________ S60 D5 SE 2004 Titanium Grey Winter Pack Mods: Volvo Tax disc holder - increases power output by 5% Child Seat Rear and side Volvo fitted blinds. Tree Sap from May - July. Removed at least 46 cup holders for weight reduction. Last edited by Viper_7; Aug 14th, 2007 at 22:41. Reason: Typo's.

Aug 15th, 2007, 12:45	#7
Viper_7 Premier Member Last Online: Aug 30th, 2013 17:33 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: York	Ford will probably fix it, this was here long before FORD! Funny thing is, quite often you find these cars fail the MOT! as the wheels sometimes touch the inner wheel arch at full lock. So you end up having to move the stops and thus make the turning circle even worse! __________________ S60 D5 SE 2004 Titanium Grey Winter Pack Mods: Volvo Tax disc holder - increases power output by 5% Child Seat Rear and side Volvo fitted blinds. Tree Sap from May - July. Removed at least 46 cup holders for weight reduction.

Aug 15th, 2007, 18:11	#10
960mick Junior Member Last Online: Mar 18th, 2014 21:35 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: rainham	full lock these cars can,t have a better turning circle due to the fact that the c,v joint on the front drive shaft can only angle so much shame though __________________ :

Aug 14th, 2007, 21:17	#3
m0auy New Member Last Online: Jan 8th, 2010 07:40 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bournemouth	Agreed - my T5 (with 17s) has a turning circle akin to a small tank! As Vipes says, forward planning is the key! L

Aug 14th, 2007, 21:29	#4
lone chippy Member Last Online: Mar 13th, 2008 20:06 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somerset	Oh Dear Go test drive a 530d estate and then get really upset . You will be fine after a while you just have to predict where you want to park it . Some recommend JEDi training .

Aug 15th, 2007, 10:47	#5
RaVolvoR v70se170 - with toys! Last Online: Oct 15th, 2013 13:17 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dartford	I agree my v70 is like an oil tanker in thick ice for turning... it all happens slowly but as was said in replies above, you really do have to plan ahead. I do think it has pretty good "feel" though, so once rolling along its actually quite nice and responsive. But then my first volvo a 940SETurbo had the opposite problem, amazing turning lock (almost London taxi style) and with the addition of no rear grip a small dab on the throttle and it would spin very nicely... and as for driving it was more of the same no response until it finally decided to turn and then the back of the car wanted to overtake! Maybe I should have driven it slower but that Turbo was really good fun!

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