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New Guy with a 122S in Mexico... and with a few doubts

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Old Mar 28th, 2019, 18:31   #41
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Another question: Radiator Blind.

Were they fitted to all cars, even to the ones sold in countries with no harsh winters? I ask because a friend in Mexico owns a 1961 model which was originally from his mother and now his, and he says he never had it.

Anyhow, mine, which was sold for the US market, probably had it, and it doesn't any more. I do find the car has the tab under the dash which I assume is for the chain, plus a tube going over the radiator for the chain to pass to the front of it... and also a couple of small holes down there in the body, where I guess the blind was attached.

I guess more than asking, I am requesting confirmation and advise on wether I would install it or if I better forget about it. If I should install it, any source for the blind? I could not find it on VP's site.

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Old Mar 28th, 2019, 19:40   #42
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Another question: Radiator Blind.

Were they fitted to all cars, even to the ones sold in countries with no harsh winters? I ask because a friend in Mexico owns a 1961 model which was originally from his mother and now his, and he says he never had it.

Anyhow, mine, which was sold for the US market, probably had it, and it doesn't any more. I do find the car has the tab under the dash which I assume is for the chain, plus a tube going over the radiator for the chain to pass to the front of it... and also a couple of small holes down there in the body, where I guess the blind was attached.

I guess more than asking, I am requesting confirmation and advise on wether I would install it or if I better forget about it. If I should install it, any source for the blind? I could not find it on VP's site.

Pics attached.

Thanks!
Victor
You should also see a tube coming out of the bulkhead for the chain.

Mine came with one kind of fitted /partially fitted / broken. If you want I can take some pictures of it for you if you want but it is in a pretty sorry state,

I get the impression these are difficult to find rarely replaced items.

I don't know if they were only cold country destination fitments or universally fitted - sorry
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Old Mar 28th, 2019, 20:30   #43
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Bulkhead tube is shown in post #12 of this thread. If this was a USA delivered car it may never have had the blind. Although it's a nice talking point I doubt if you will ever use it in Mexico. They are good for speeding up the warm up when it's below zero.
Detective work - See if any paint has been chipped off the under dash chain lock and the bulkhead tube.
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Old Apr 1st, 2019, 02:27   #44
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Yes, there is the tube on the bulkhead. I did some archeology, as Derek suggested, and I could swear the car never had the radiator blinds, or else they were never used, as the back of the tab under the dashboard has no scratches at all, and same on the interior of the tube.
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Old Aug 13th, 2019, 03:03   #45
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Hi guys!

Time for an update and a few more doubts.

The car is now sitting on correct measurement 165/80-15 tires... cheap brand but at least it looks correct now.

I also bought a set of bumper guards and installed them, plus a few things like outside mirror, chrome Volvo gas cap and a few missing bits. The car is mostly complete and nice. A good paint job could work wonders, but it is presentable as it is for a while.

I am adding pics...

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Old Aug 13th, 2019, 03:11   #46
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Now... for my doubts:

How do you attach the jack to the straps on the side of the trunk? My car had the straps but I just can't figure out how they hold the jack.

I would love to get a tool bag... anyone out there with one that could sell?

Thanks!
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Old Aug 13th, 2019, 11:50   #47
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The jack fits diagonally against the inner wheel arch. There is another strap fitting, not shown, further up the wheel arch. The pins hold the straps in the slotted tabs. The hooks fit, top over the wheel arch seam and bottom into the opposite tab. The top one also holds down the handle and stops it rattling, if you are lucky. The slotted tab in your first picture is for the spare wheel strap. This strap is in two parts with the other end fitting into a tab next to the wheel well. If this wheel well has been replaced using an aftermarket pressing the tab may be missing. The strap fits together with a pull to tighten action with a toothed section to bite into the strap. These are often missing as they can get very tatty. Jack straps also often missing but you have those.
Spare wheel strap = Volvo #654691 Spare wheel strap Amazon is available.

Repro tool bags are now available. #670916 from Brookhouse at £11.94 so I guess VP will also have them. Do you have the tool set?
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Old Aug 13th, 2019, 23:47   #48
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Thanks, Derek!

Not being native in English, I guess the verbal description is a bit over my head.

There is a tab or ear, with a much smaller slot, on the side of the spare tire well, towards the center.

Two tabs, close to each other, to the left of the spare tire

One tab up in the wheel well cover, close to the trunk oppening.

I am attaching pics.

Then, I have two rubber small straps with hooks on one end and a bolt to attach them to the wider slots on the other side.

Finally, my car has a strap, sort of a nylon thing, that does not look original to me, that would seem to fasten the tire in place and which attaches to itself via a velcro strip.

Sorry if my quest for help turns into a bit of a headache... pics would certainly help.

About my tools, I only have the jack plus the two shown... and no tool bag. I have seen a set on ebay for $179 plus shipping... just not prepared to spend that amount yet.

Thanks for the help
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Old Aug 14th, 2019, 12:59   #49
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Pic 1 shows the single tab for the short rubber strap. That holds the top of the jack against the wheel arch with the hook around the edge of the adjacent strengthening plate. Works but not very efficient. The longer rubber strap used the two tabs for holding the bottom of the jack. It works but again a bit of a fiddle which is why they often aren't used. Remove spare wheel to give you a bit of room. The piece of nylon strap you show looks like the real thing but the original had a white thread down each side and had the metal buckle I mentioned. Velcro isn't up to the job but looks OK I suppose. Check the previous link.

Tool kits are a bit different between early and late cars. I have one of the cranked wheel nut tools and it may be Volvo I guess but I don't think it will fit in the bag. It would make it difficult to roll up. Normally there is a large box spanner which fits the wheel nuts one end and the spark plugs the other. This comes with a short thin tommy bar with a domed end for use when removing plugs and the longer bar you have for doing the wheel nuts. Black handled screwdriver normally with early cars and usefully the blades reverse to give a crosshead and straight driver at each end. Pair of pliers for early cars and an adjustable spanner with a serrated jaw at the other end for later cars. Serrated jaw for various size nuts but not very effective. Made by Bahco but should be marked Volvo and not Bahco if they are the correct one.
I wouldn't pay lots of money for these tools but if you keep your eyes open you can find them individually for not much money. In your position, I would look out for the box spanner as it is the most useful. I have attached a few tool kit pictures. As you can see they do vary and may or may not be complete/correct. Look in the parts book for a picture of the toolset.
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Old Aug 15th, 2019, 00:49   #50
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Thanks a lot Derek! I will try attaching the jack the way you describe and let you know.

And thanks for the pics of the took kits. Now I know what to look for.

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